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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Imagine if Hunter Biden (who absolutely should be investigated) rang the secretary of state with some coup suggestions, the right wing media would explode!
    Then there's this:
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    but but Hikaly no no but but hunter.....



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    Holy shit, voter fraud found!
    Oh wait, it is ANOTHER republican doing it.

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    Josh Hawley, another Republican, owns and lives in a house in Virginia. To represent Missouri as a senator he needs to live in Missouri, he doesn't, he gave the address of a sister who does.
    Not an epic crime but voter fraud no less.
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    Not sure where to put this, so this will do... This guy cracked me up


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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Not sure where to put this, so this will do... This guy cracked me up
    I mean, if he was even remotely correct on anything he said, sure - it'd be funny.

    But to answer his question:

    "Why should we be worried about the messages that the biggest producer of Kids entertainment pushes?"

    I think the answer is self-evident in the question. The fate of the next generation is an issue as important, if not more-so, than the Power Grid and Infrastructure.
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    So with Musk buying twitter (I can think of other things better to spend billions on) the drums are beating to bring back Trump on the platform.
    The below article may or may not be available to all, I can see it, but they are begging me to come back and resubscribe (I'm not)
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...reinstatement/
    One of the key takeaways for me is the below paragraph....
    "Trump himself has been a late adopter of the network, posting on Truth Social only once, two months ago (”Get Ready! Your favorite President will see you soon!”). People close to him said earlier this month that he had no intention of using it until it was a proven success. At a rally Saturday in Ohio, he even messed up its name, calling it “Truth Central.”

    This encapsulates Trumps failures and breathtakingly bad business decisions alongside building poor teams with grandiose overstated visions of their abilities. Truth needs desperately for Trump to post to become successful, so he decides not too. Why? He wants it to become stable and free of problems first. Why was it released in the first place then? Maybe they are finding cloning the look and feel of twitter is just one part of the equation. What they have done is manifest a bizarre which came first, the chicken or the egg in some sort of ever dwindling tightening spiral of doom. Not surprising from a man so short sighted and greedy he bankrupted multiple casinos. Yet some see him as having the chops to be a good president?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    So with Musk buying twitter (I can think of other things better to spend billions on)
    I dunno - look at what Elon has spent his money on:

    Tesla (Electric Cars that mostly work)
    SpaceX (I like Space and realistically it is going to be the next grand adventure to colonise another planet)
    Twitter (Free Speech is the core of our civilization)

    The other thing to remember is, for how much Elon has - it's the equivalent of people like you and me buying a brand new Litre bike as list price.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    the drums are beating to bring back Trump on the platform.
    I'd love to see that. Not so much for Trump to use it, but to see all the tears of outrage from the censorious lefties who no longer are getting their way...

    That said, I saw an article where Trump has indicated he would not use Twitter again.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    The below article may or may not be available to all, I can see it, but they are begging me to come back and resubscribe (I'm not)
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...reinstatement/
    One of the key takeaways for me is the below paragraph....
    "Trump himself has been a late adopter of the network, posting on Truth Social only once, two months ago (”Get Ready! Your favorite President will see you soon!”). People close to him said earlier this month that he had no intention of using it until it was a proven success. At a rally Saturday in Ohio, he even messed up its name, calling it “Truth Central.”

    This encapsulates Trumps failures and breathtakingly bad business decisions alongside building poor teams with grandiose overstated visions of their abilities. Truth needs desperately for Trump to post to become successful, so he decides not too. Why? He wants it to become stable and free of problems first. Why was it released in the first place then? Maybe they are finding cloning the look and feel of twitter is just one part of the equation. What they have done is manifest a bizarre which came first, the chicken or the egg in some sort of ever dwindling tightening spiral of doom. Not surprising from a man so short sighted and greedy he bankrupted multiple casinos. Yet some see him as having the chops to be a good president?
    Yes and No - again, my experience with Software project roll-out and MVP (Minimum Viable Product) tells me that this is the approach they are going with. If there are UX issues, then fixing them now whilst you have a relatively small number of users (enough to report and fix the issues, but not enough to create a perception) is reasonably wise - because once Trump does start using it, I expect there will be a big uptick in users.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Twitter (Free Speech is the core of our civilization)
    What I find interesting is the guy who has notoriously thin skin when it comes to criticism of his projects (The infamous top gear review for instance). Is now keen to be the defender of free speech.
    I remember the rejection of his offer of a submarine device deemed impractical for that particular rescue generated a pedo tweet from Musk. He won the case, I suspect his money "may" have been an influence in that win


    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    I'd love to see that. Not so much for Trump to use it, but to see all the tears of outrage from the censorious lefties who no longer are getting their way...
    That would be kind of funny, it could also not work out for him either. I'm finding these leaked recordings around the Jan 6th thing quite interesting.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    That said, I saw an article where Trump has indicated he would not use Twitter again.
    I admire your continued faith that a Trump quote may be actually truthful and adhered too




    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Yes and No - again, my experience with Software project roll-out and MVP (Minimum Viable Product) tells me that this is the approach they are going with. If there are UX issues, then fixing them now whilst you have a relatively small number of users (enough to report and fix the issues, but not enough to create a perception) is reasonably wise - because once Trump does start using it, I expect there will be a big uptick in users.
    Maybe you can get away with that with a internal company software roll out, but turning users into beta testers for what you know is going to be one of the most heavily scrutinized public internet projects on Earth, cummon
    I knew with his history and fake it till ya make it bravado, would end up putting together an incompetent team to implement it. It is a failure on just about any metric you care to run over it. Pure incompetence is what it is, as I'm sure you are well aware.
    Had I been overseeing that, and been approached with the plan "Hey, lets go live with this half baked version running on low capacity infrastructure, we will sort it out along the way - trust us it is a reasonably wise way to go", would have received their last pay check and been shown the door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Maybe you can get away with that with a internal company software roll out, but turning users into beta testers for what you know is going to be one of the most heavily scrutinized public internet projects on Earth, cummon
    I knew with his history and fake it till ya make it bravado, would end up putting together an incompetent team to implement it. It is a failure on just about any metric you care to run over it. Pure incompetence is what it is, as I'm sure you are well aware.
    Had I been overseeing that, and been approached with the plan "Hey, lets go live with this half baked version running on low capacity infrastructure, we will sort it out along the way - trust us it is a reasonably wise way to go", would have received their last pay check and been shown the door.
    Oh I dunno. That type of software development seems to be everywhere - letting the users be the bug finders. A local example: approaching 65 birthday, need to apply for NZ super. Should be easy online, right? Go to MSD website , find the "start here: - do you have a client number? no, go here. fill in all the details including mobile number and email address - two days later, client number sent to email address . Back to website - do you have a client number - YES! go here, Enter client number. FAIL, we do not have your email address or client number, Call 0800 number. FFS !

    Of course calling the 0800 is fraught with a whole nother set of frustration. Starts out by warning of at least a 45 minute delay. Auto system asks for instructions , I say "appointment" it comes back with a list of possibilities, I say "make appointment", asks what is appointment for, I say "superannuation", it then tells me to go to IRD for a tax code. this happened at lest five time while using different ways of saying the same thing.
    Sorry this has nothing to do with Trump, just needed to vent. Should have put it in the Rant page
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Oh I dunno. That type of software development seems to be everywhere - letting the users be the bug finders. A local example: approaching 65 birthday, need to apply for NZ super. Should be easy online, right? Go to MSD website , find the "start here: - do you have a client number? no, go here. fill in all the details including mobile number and email address - two days later, client number sent to email address . Back to website - do you have a client number - YES! go here, Enter client number. FAIL, we do not have your email address or client number, Call 0800 number. FFS !

    Of course calling the 0800 is fraught with a whole nother set of frustration. Starts out by warning of at least a 45 minute delay. Auto system asks for instructions , I say "appointment" it comes back with a list of possibilities, I say "make appointment", asks what is appointment for, I say "superannuation", it then tells me to go to IRD for a tax code. this happened at lest five time while using different ways of saying the same thing.
    Sorry this has nothing to do with Trump, just needed to vent. Should have put it in the Rant page
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    This too has nothing to do with Trump (just to your last post).

    I started to read it and started laughing almost straight away, because my better half made an application for her pension about 6 weeks ago, and some of the steps you mentioned sounded so familiar.

    But you may have more fun to come.

    We produced (scanned) all the relevant documents, and then uploaded them as we progressed through the online application form. It advised us if any mandatory input was missing, and finally we managed to complete and successfully save the application. Success (or so we thought).

    This week, we received an email from MSD with a single page document that the application had been declined because some "mandatory content was missing" . WTF ? No indication of what was missing. C'mon, throw us a bone.

    After sitting on the phone for 45-50 minutes, I finally got through to a human who managed to identify the "missing identity documents" needed, and we uploaded them while I was on the phone. Hopefully, success this time.

    My turn (to apply for a pension) comes in a few months time , so at least I know what to expect. I think that I'll start early.

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    This is just embarrassing. Trump has no fucking idea of the name of his own project. If all the RWNJs head back to Twitter - 'cause Elon, Truth Social is finished. Devin Nunes is talking up Truth Social but CEOs of listed companies are not permitted to lie to inflate the performance of the company. He's not a politician now, lying is normal there, he described his occupation as farmer for years but he didn't own a farm. It just looked good on the paperwork. CEOs of listed companies have to be more accurate. The Securities Commission may already be on his case.

    Oh, and Trump is currently being fined $10,000 a day until he hands over the company records requested by the Attorney General of New York.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking01 View Post

    My turn (to apply for a pension) comes in a few months time , so at least I know what to expect. I think that I'll start early.
    Do that. They don't do back pay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    What I find interesting is the guy who has notoriously thin skin when it comes to criticism of his projects (The infamous top gear review for instance). Is now keen to be the defender of free speech.
    I remember the rejection of his offer of a submarine device deemed impractical for that particular rescue generated a pedo tweet from Musk. He won the case, I suspect his money "may" have been an influence in that win
    To be fair, the Tesla lawsuit was over 10 years ago... Elon today is quite a bit different - I've got my theory as to why he was sensitive about the Top Gear review, but it's not really relevant.

    I'll grant you - that we need to see Elon put his metaphorical Money where his Mouth is in terms of what he intends to do with Twitter - but in the same breath - the Man pretty much ran a series of Twitter polls about Twitter and then decides to buy the company outright so he can take it private and turn it into the Digital Town Square.

    I respect that.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    That would be kind of funny, it could also not work out for him either. I'm finding these leaked recordings around the Jan 6th thing quite interesting.
    I'm finding the acquittals of the people who went to trial even more interesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    I admire your continued faith that a Trump quote may be actually truthful and adhered too
    Do you think Trump is the type of person to use a competitors Brand when he has his own brand?

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Maybe you can get away with that with a internal company software roll out, but turning users into beta testers for what you know is going to be one of the most heavily scrutinized public internet projects on Earth, cummon
    The horror stories I could tell.... And that includes public facing internet projects... Do you remember the Teachers Novopay scandal?

    and as other people have chimed in - this is the way of things now. Get it out the door as quick as possible, then have a process for quickly fixing bugs and a fast turn-around time.

    There are some merits to this approach, lots of micro-updates means that users are saddled with problems for shorter times and since each update is relatively small, the scope for things going bad is smaller.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    I knew with his history and fake it till ya make it bravado, would end up putting together an incompetent team to implement it. It is a failure on just about any metric you care to run over it. Pure incompetence is what it is, as I'm sure you are well aware.
    Had I been overseeing that, and been approached with the plan "Hey, lets go live with this half baked version running on low capacity infrastructure, we will sort it out along the way - trust us it is a reasonably wise way to go", would have received their last pay check and been shown the door.
    I mean, Fake it till you make it is a viable strategy....

    But to re-iterate, a lot of IT Projects go live with a half-baked version on cobbled together infra.... Too many in my opinion. And the scary part is, I've heard the same sorts of stories from colleagues who work at different companies, some of whom are household names and their back-ends are 5-10 years out of date...
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