Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[husaberg]

What share of all murders and suicides in the U.S. involve a gun?
Nearly eight-in-ten (79%) U.S. murders in 2020 – 19,384 out of 24,576 – involved a firearm

How has the number of U.S. gun deaths changed over time?
The 45,222 total gun deaths in 2020 were by far the most on record, representing a 14% increase from the year before, a 25% increase from five years earlier and a 43% increase from a decade prior.

Gun murders, in particular, have climbed sharply in recent years. The 19,384 gun murders that took place in 2020 were the most since at least 1968, exceeding the previous peak of 18,253 recorded by the CDC in 1993. The 2020 total represented a 34% increase from the year before, a 49% increase over five years and a 75% increase over 10 years.

America has the weakest gun laws and the most guns—393 million—of any comparable nation.2
The US accounts for just 4% of the world’s population but 35% of global firearm suicides.
Americans are 25 times more likely to be killed in a gun homicide than people in other high-income countries

[TheDemonLord]

Because amongst other things a civilised society has, now all the injuns have been dealt with, is a Police force which should, in an ideal world, negate the need for armed civilians roaming the streets and a professional army to deter outside forces a la your Ukraine example.

I've highlighted the key point.

They don't - Take Uvalde for example (since it's topical) - it wasn't stopped by the Police force, it was stopped by a Private Citizen, with a Privately owned Firearm (Yes, he was a Border Patrol agent, but he wasn't there in any official capacity)

Secondly - The US is big, Vast even - and as the phrase goes "When Seconds count, the Police are only Minutes away"

Thirdly - The US will point to many countries in the 20th century that had both a Police force and Professional army and subjected it's citizens to murderous tyranny.

Finally, specifically on the Ukraine, They had a Standing army - didn't deter outside forces - What was the quote from Yamamoto? "Behind every blade of Grass will be a Rifle"?

[Berries]

Your first graph says "advanced" countries.

[TheDemonLord]

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However, several curious things to note - firstly that the first graph is wrong/misleading - because I know that Switzerlands Homocide rate with Firearms is comparable to NZs, however they do have a higher suicide rate, which is what is being included in that graph.

Mainly just pointing this out to show that your sources are dishonest, as they are including Suicides (which is commonly done).

But I also want to point out that the Violent/Non-Violent crimes list, that YOU provided, I notice some curious instances.

Australia and the UK are both the highest, which given the time period, are within a decade or so of their most restrictive Gun Legislation...

Whereas the US, Switzerland and Finland (all countries with high rates of Gun Ownership, Switzerland and Finland also allowing private ownership of Full Autos/Service Rifles) all have low rates. Your graphs seem to prove that having a well-armed population is a good deterrent for Violent Crime.

[sugilite:Me]

Seems to me that now the supreme court has been packed with lying pollies, woman may now consider that since their rights are now less than what their grandmothers had, the Government is now tyrannical. Time to form a militia, take up arms, put a few bullets in several supreme justice heads, and a few pro gun republican heads while they are at it. I would imagine the 2nd amendment would get amended in a few days - if not hours.
I mean, who gets to decide when the government is tyrannical? Must be what ever militia decides right. Pollies only give a shit over stuff that effects them directly, so go to it ladies - fill em with lead.

[husaberg]

Trump declares US anti-abortion ruling a decision made by God

[James Deuce]

Seems to me that now the supreme court has been packed with lying pollies, woman may now consider that since their rights are now less than what their grandmothers had, the Government is now tyrannical. Time to form a militia, take up arms, put a few bullets in several supreme justice heads, and a few pro gun republican heads while they are at it. I would imagine the 2nd amendment would get amended in a few days - if not hours.
I mean, who gets to decide when the government is tyrannical? Must be what ever militia decides right. Pollies only give a shit over stuff that effects them directly, so go to it ladies - fill em with lead.

The average Muh Gun Rights hillbilly won't see any issue with this at all. There is also the outright fact that any armed rebellion would be over in hours. The may have lots of guns on the wall, but they face a government that doesn't need to engage inside small arms range, and who will respond without regard to collateral damage. They've been practising that sort of shit in other people's countries for quite a few decades. After all, the only way to effectively defend your own borders is from within someone else's borders.

[TheDemonLord]

Seems to me that now the supreme court has been packed with lying pollies, woman may now consider that since their rights are now less than what their grandmothers had, the Government is now tyrannical. Time to form a militia, take up arms, put a few bullets in several supreme justice heads, and a few pro gun republican heads while they are at it. I would imagine the 2nd amendment would get amended in a few days - if not hours.
I mean, who gets to decide when the government is tyrannical? Must be what ever militia decides right. Pollies only give a shit over stuff that effects them directly, so go to it ladies - fill em with lead.

The average Muh Gun Rights hillbilly won't see any issue with this at all.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

[TheDemonLord]

What share of all murders and suicides in the U.S. involve a gun?
Nearly eight-in-ten (79%) U.S. murders in 2020 – 19,384 out of 24,576 – involved a firearm

Your stat says 'Murders and Suicides', then says just Murders. Nothing Dishonest there.

How has the number of U.S. gun deaths changed over time?
The 45,222 total gun deaths in 2020 were by far the most on record, representing a 14% increase from the year before, a 25% increase from five years earlier and a 43% increase from a decade prior.

Gun Deaths - so that includes Suicides - I wonder what happened in 2020 that made so many people feel suicidal... Maybe people loosing their Business, their Loved Ones, their rights, Maybe Riots and looting....

Gun murders, in particular, have climbed sharply in recent years. The 19,384 gun murders that took place in 2020 were the most since at least 1968, exceeding the previous peak of 18,253 recorded by the CDC in 1993. The 2020 total represented a 34% increase from the year before, a 49% increase over five years and a 75% increase over 10 years.

Must have been those Mostly Peaceful protests....

Deaths? so that Includes suicides then - perhaps the Fear Mongering over Covid has something to answer for with the high Suicide rate?

But if you exclude 2020 as an outlier - the biggest Killer is Car Accidents - so one might presume that if you force people to stay indoors, stop them from living their life - they don't die on the road, but they choose to off themselves.

[R650R]

Seems to me that now the supreme court has been packed with lying pollies, woman may now consider that since their rights are now less than what their grandmothers had, the Government is now tyrannical. Time to form a militia, take up arms, put a few bullets in several supreme justice heads, and a few pro gun republican heads while they are at it. I would imagine the 2nd amendment would get amended in a few days - if not hours.
I mean, who gets to decide when the government is tyrannical? Must be what ever militia decides right. Pollies only give a shit over stuff that effects them directly, so go to it ladies - fill em with lead.

Women today have same rights as their grandmothers they just choose not to use them. Their grandmothers had the right to choose a suitable mating partner. They had right to not have sex if they didnÂ’t want to.
TodayÂ’s women want to treat their bodies like an amusement park without any care for the consequences of actions. They were blessed with certain organs for the survival of the species as were men along similar lines along with a inherent personal responsibility to use for intended purpose only, not for frequent random entertainment.
Few people realise where the modern abortion movement came from. Google Margery Sanger ....
In early 1900’s Eugenics societies were all so popular “ getting rid of” handicapped or defective kids was socially acceptable. Then hitler came along and over did it and made it look less rosey and that’s when American outfit changed its name to “ planned parenthood”
The goal in making abortion a normalised and acceltable practice was to try and stop the poor and uneducated from breeding so much.
But it backfired on them going from eugenics to dysgenics as the poor had little to lose from being pregnant and perhaps with spending more time with family couldnÂ’t stomach the idea.
Anyhow so the outcome is that primarily higher educated career woman get abortions so as not to interrupt their career goals.
And we see the result in modern societies gene pool....
It’s for the good of humanity that it shouldn’t be normal or “easy” to get an abortion.
Yes a woman should be able to choose but there should be robust support and criteria to get one.
Sadly justvlike any problem a govt interferes with itÂ’s always a sledgehammer cracking a walnut.
LetÂ’s not forget unless your the Virgin Mary thereÂ’s one surevfire way to never need an abortion...,,

[sugilite:Me]

The average Muh Gun Rights hillbilly won't see any issue with this at all. There is also the outright fact that any armed rebellion would be over in hours. The may have lots of guns on the wall, but they face a government that doesn't need to engage inside small arms range, and who will respond without regard to collateral damage. They've been practising that sort of shit in other people's countries for quite a few decades. After all, the only way to effectively defend your own borders is from within someone else's borders.

Absolutely, it just shows how absurd this 2nd amendment militia bullshit really is. As if a militia would stand any chance against Government forces. But they are willing to let thousands die a year to prop up the facade a militia could possibly overthrow a tyrannical Government.

Amendments by the nature of their name can be amended, but pollies just want to have it in place as is to wind up their thick as pig shit bases that their "rights" are under threat. Carnage be damned, as long as the pollies have their snouts in that trough.

[sugilite:Me]

Women today have same rights as their grandmothers they just choose not to use them. Their grandmothers had the right to choose a suitable mating partner. They had right to not have sex if they didnÂ’t want to.
TodayÂ’s women want to treat their bodies like an amusement park without any care for the consequences of actions. They were blessed with certain organs for the survival of the species as were men along similar lines along with a inherent personal responsibility to use for intended purpose only, not for frequent random entertainment.
Few people realise where the modern abortion movement came from. Google Margery Sanger ....
In early 1900’s Eugenics societies were all so popular “ getting rid of” handicapped or defective kids was socially acceptable. Then hitler came along and over did it and made it look less rosey and that’s when American outfit changed its name to “ planned parenthood”
The goal in making abortion a normalised and acceltable practice was to try and stop the poor and uneducated from breeding so much.
But it backfired on them going from eugenics to dysgenics as the poor had little to lose from being pregnant and perhaps with spending more time with family couldnÂ’t stomach the idea.
Anyhow so the outcome is that primarily higher educated career woman get abortions so as not to interrupt their career goals.
And we see the result in modern societies gene pool....
It’s for the good of humanity that it shouldn’t be normal or “easy” to get an abortion.
Yes a woman should be able to choose but there should be robust support and criteria to get one.
Sadly justvlike any problem a govt interferes with itÂ’s always a sledgehammer cracking a walnut.
LetÂ’s not forget unless your the Virgin Mary thereÂ’s one surevfire way to never need an abortion...,,

A blatant copy and paste job from a male chauvinist pig.
Do you not have the ability to articulate your thoughts into your own words?

[TheDemonLord]

Absolutely, it just shows how absurd this 2nd amendment militia bullshit really is. As if a militia would stand any chance against Government forces. But they are willing to let thousands die a year to prop up the facade a militia could possibly overthrow a tyrannical Government.

Amendments by the nature of their name can be amended, but pollies just want to have it in place as is to wind up their thick as pig shit bases that their "rights" are under threat. Carnage be damned, as long as the pollies have their snouts in that trough.

I used to agree, that without combined arms, an armed rebellion against the US was doomed to failure.

However - recent experience, particularly Afghanistan, shows that even with Technological superiority, it's boots on the ground that take, hold and control territory.

Which is ~1 million Service members, assuming that Posse Comitatus is suspended and assuming that none of the Military side with the Militia. Let's add in all the Law Enforcement officers as well, and again - presuming that none of them side with the Militia, that's an extra 696,644 - let's round it up and say a total fighting force of 2 million.

In terms of Households with Guns (given that there are more guns than people in the US) - the Stats I found from CNN say 4/10 households have a Gun - which gives an approximate militia strength of 120 MILLION Militia.

If only a fraction - 1/10th decide to take up the fight, that's an army of 12 million.

a 6:1 advantage for the home team is nothing to scoff at.

And here's a question - how many Democrats have actually proposed an Amendment to 2A? None as far as I can tell.

The closest I can find is an idea penned by a former SC Justice, in 2012 on how he would amend the 2nd amendment. Strangely - no Democrat since has taken up this call (although I did see the opinion re-printed this year in the Washington Post)

I've made the point before, but I think it's worth making it again - yes, Amendments can be Amended and in order to do so, there needs to be strong political Will and strong public support - yet not even the bravest and most fervent anti-Gun Democrat politician dares suggest it - because such an utterance would be Political Suicide.

[R650R]

A blatant copy and paste job from a male chauvinist pig.
Do you not have the ability to articulate your thoughts into your own words?

Can you please link the source material to substantiate that allegation. You only need to cut and paste a couple sentqces and google will take you to “ the single source of truth” if your right....

I see in. Dailymail article (not linked) that a lot of female activists are promising a Sex Strike (except of course if they are trying to get pregnant-they A TULY said that). Somehow I doubt they will have the same resolve as coal miners.
On the plus side it will have great benefits to the gene pool and men at nightclubs will know the political affiliation of any prospects without having to ask. Nothing worse than picking up a leftist enviro nutter whose aggrieved at the lack of use of your recycling bins lol

How dare the govt make people accountable for their lifestyle choices

I’m off to buy shares in AA size battery manufacturers

[TheDemonLord]

A fantastic breakdown of why the SC made the decision they did.