Jacinda

[JimO]

A mate was carping and whinging about the state of NZ affairs yesterday, getting quite vehement in his dislike of the current gummint. He failed to see the irony in his statements as he was loading his new 7mtr fishing boat with gear and hitching it to his new Ford Ranga..

of course rangers are shit

[george formby]

of course rangers are shit

Yup, tows a Stabicraft, too. Makes your sandwiches soggy.

[R650R]

7.2% inflation is not to be laughed at during a cost of living crisis, no matter how much worse it is in other countries.
About 70% of people in NZ earn SFA, poverty is endemic in some areas so yes it’s a problem.
It’s especially a problem when the leader of country got back in promising to end child poverty, to build 100,000 new houses.....

[pritch]

7.2% inflation is not to be laughed at during a cost of living crisis, no matter how much worse it is in other countries.
About 70% of people in NZ earn SFA, poverty is endemic in some areas so yes it’s a problem.
It’s especially a problem when the leader of country got back in promising to end child poverty, to build 100,000 new houses.....

The fact is that this government has done a better job of the economy - and the pandemic, than most. Yet it seems most of the media can only see the negatives so most of what they are producing currently is basically just so much more misinformation.

Poverty is relative too. Britain has had years of austerity most of which economists said was unnecessary. The people there are feeling the pinch way worse than here. They aren't just suffering the effects of Brexit and a series of stupid PMs the most recent of whom crashed their economy. Now Thatcherism has bitten them on the arse.

Thatcher privatised the gas industry. Recently the company that owned most of Britains gas storage (about 70%?) decided to go out of the gas storage business. All of that storage is gone. Energy prices are ridiculous, many people can't afford to cook or to heat their home. Foodbanks are saying they can't take food that needs cooking, people can't afford the energy required to cook it. 'Winter is coming.' Our government may not be perfect but they're doing a damned site better job than Britain.

The 100,000 houses policy was sheer idiocy. Had the minister done even the most basic arithmetic he'd have known that. Never the less there's a lot of houses going up around here and I'm pretty sure it's not just a local thing. Try getting a builder to do something. Still, I don't think many of the new houses are for the people living in motels.

New Zealand does not exist in isolation, it is subject to international trends. While far from perfect, it would seem though that we are doing better than most. I may be weird but I think the government deserves some credit for that.

Oh and I'm not a die hard Labour supporter. I'm one of those who from time to time change their mind and thereby change governments.

[R650R]

The fact is that this government has done a better job of the economy - and the pandemic, than most. Yet it seems most of the media can only see the negatives so most of what they are producing currently is basically just so much more misinformation.

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Thanks for proving my previous definition regarding the popular use of the word disinformation. Oh mis/dis pretty much same same lol
Btw your sailing pretty close to calling our media fake news there ;p

[Grumph]

Thanks for proving my previous definition regarding the popular use of the word disinformation. Oh mis/dis pretty much same same lol
Btw your sailing pretty close to calling our media fake news there ;p

Look at TV3 with clear vision and it's starting to become Fox news lite. Very definite anti-labour stance atm.

I do wonder if it's the US owners pushing it that way.

[TheDemonLord]

Speaking of misinformation...

The New Zealand economy is in better shape than many. I listened to Hosking banging on about 7.2% inflation. Most western countries would love to have 7.2% inflation.

Our debt to GDP is better than most and waaaay better than some.

All the carping and whinging is bollocks. Or you could call it misinformation if you want to be polite.

But do you know what is better than 7.2%?

1.7%.

That's what our inflation was before the disastrous Covid Policy.

Let's look at some other countries that didn't do the same thing - Sweden, same time period:

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...=SE&start=2015

2.2%

It's almost like there's some weird correlation (one might might even say causation...) between the countries that did the same thing and got the same outcome...

Weird, Huh.

[TheDemonLord]

Look at TV3 with clear vision and it's starting to become Fox news lite. Very definite anti-labour stance atm.

I do wonder if it's the US owners pushing it that way.

That would be nice, unlikely, but nice.

[TheDemonLord]

The fact is that this government has done a better job of the economy - and the pandemic, than most. Yet it seems most of the media can only see the negatives so most of what they are producing currently is basically just so much more misinformation.

'Than Most'

That's because most did the same thing. The only reason that the Pandemic was better was due to factors outside of Government control - such as Geographic isolation, population density and our lack of a Mass Transit system.

The ones that didn't do the same thing are far better off.

But even that isn't the whole issue: Most people at this point have caught some variant of Covid and most experienced symptoms ranging from the Sniffles to on-par with a good Flu.

People are looking at their:

Mortgage prices
Food Prices
Petrol Prices

And going 'this was not worth it for the sniffles'

Reality has a wonderful way of cutting through the Political Spin.

Poverty is relative too. Britain has had years of austerity most of which economists said was unnecessary. The people there are feeling the pinch way worse than here. They aren't just suffering the effects of Brexit and a series of stupid PMs the most recent of whom crashed their economy. Now Thatcherism has bitten them on the arse.

Thatcher privatised the gas industry. Recently the company that owned most of Britains gas storage (about 70%?) decided to go out of the gas storage business. All of that storage is gone. Energy prices are ridiculous, many people can't afford to cook or to heat their home. Foodbanks are saying they can't take food that needs cooking, people can't afford the energy required to cook it. 'Winter is coming.' Our government may not be perfect but they're doing a damned site better job than Britain.

Hmmmm - What is the Political, Social and Ideological movement that is opposed to the Usage of Fossil Fuels? Must be a Far-Right one, correct? I mean obviously that would be why, right?

Unless it's the reality that it's the Greeny policy that the UK Conservatives stupidly went along with that caused all of this.

And don't think for a second that NZ is far behind - this is just a look into the future if we don't reverse this rabid Enviro-Mental ideology, The amount of Coal we are importing and burning in Huntly to make up the failures of 'Green' energy production is a testament to this.

You'll remember - Trump told the EU that this would happen, they (and I believe you) laughed at him - you don't seem to be laughing now - and they definitely aren't.

The 100,000 houses policy was sheer idiocy. Had the minister done even the most basic arithmetic he'd have known that. Never the less there's a lot of houses going up around here and I'm pretty sure it's not just a local thing. Try getting a builder to do something. Still, I don't think many of the new houses are for the people living in motels.

New Zealand does not exist in isolation, it is subject to international trends. While far from perfect, it would seem though that we are doing better than most. I may be weird but I think the government deserves some credit for that.

Oh and I'm not a die hard Labour supporter. I'm one of those who from time to time change their mind and thereby change governments.

The Government deserves nothing less than to be tried for treason and found guilty.

[R650R]

Look at TV3 with clear vision and it's starting to become Fox news lite. Very definite anti-labour stance atm.

I do wonder if it's the US owners pushing it that way.

Perhaps they are just reading room temperature better...

If you google the ownership model of the owners you’ll see there’s no one shareholder big enough to really make that kinda call.

Die hard leftist columnist comes out as anti labour, great interview...

[husaberg]

7.2% inflation is not to be laughed at during a cost of living crisis, no matter how much worse it is in other ]

UK

[R650R]

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[R650R]

Nice to see a few shreds of integrity left, jacinda saying straight up even if voting age law passes it won’t apply til the following election.
Now let’s hope all the MPs realise all those votes will only be wasted on Green Party. And stop this. For some it could cost them their seats with the educated votes of their parents being cancelled by entitled teens....

[pete376403]

Nice to see a few shreds of integrity left, jacinda saying straight up even if voting age law passes it won’t apply til the following election.
Now let’s hope all the MPs realise all those votes will only be wasted on Green Party. And stop this. For some it could cost them their seats with the educated votes of their parents being cancelled by entitled teens....

The vote requires a 75% majority of parliament and the nats already have said they wont support it so - dead horse already.

[MD]

I have to say thinking back to when I was 16 and 17, I and my friends paid absolutely no attention to politics so voting would have been irresponsible.

The woke Court judges have said letting 18 y.o. vote discriminates against 17 y.o. Really? then lower it to 16 and you have just discriminated against 15 y.o. Where does it end. Let newborns vote then you have rid the country of ageist voting discrimination. Well done those Judges.