Unmasking Elon Musk

[pete376403]

So riding through a river crossing (part of any normal adv ride) is now grounds for a write off ? Wonder how NZTA determined that?

[onearmedbandit]

So riding through a river crossing (part of any normal adv ride) is now grounds for a write off ? Wonder how NZTA determined that?

NZTA don't. Your insurance company writes the vehicle off. NZTA just won't let a flood damaged vehicle back on the road.

[Laava]

Yeah I've seen a couple dealers I know try to get cars that turned out to be water damaged through compliance, it is not at all cost effective as all sorts of control modules/wiring/sensors need to be replaced.

So do you have to have receipts? And if so, they would have to be applied solely to your vehicle?

[onearmedbandit]

So do you have to have receipts? And if so, they would have to be applied solely to your vehicle?

I've never actually been down that path before, but from experience in other compliance areas yes receipts have to be provided and installation signed off on. In fact I don't know anyone who has gone to the effort, both dealers just sold their cars for parts.

[pete376403]

NZTA don't. Your insurance company writes the vehicle off. NZTA just won't let a flood damaged vehicle back on the road.

Yeah, so if NZTA wont let a vehicle back in the road it's effectively useless, ie a write-off. People dont pay insurance premiums so they can have a vehicle that they cant use.

Looking a the ABS that is supposedly rendered unsafe by water - the wheel components are exposed to water in the normal course of operation (driving on wet roads) and are sealed accordingly. THe ABS pump is usually in a sheltered position but again sealed to keep brake fluid in and water out. The vehicle computer is well sealed. Do NZTA have a proper understanding of the vehicles that they are supposed to be administering? Have they heard of Deutsch,Superseal and other automotive waterproof connectors?

[onearmedbandit]

I've seen the effects of water ingress on modern electrics in cars, I guess sitting in water for a few days is different to crossing a ford or diving in rain. I know of a few Porsches that made it to NZ with water damage, they were useless ultimately because Porsche stepped in, but I know of one of them that was used by a dealer on a d plate and it had ongoing transmission and abs controller issues due to the flooding.

[R650R]

So riding through a river crossing (part of any normal adv ride) is now grounds for a write off ? Wonder how NZTA determined that?

Most ADV “river crossings” are splashing through puddles masquerading as creeks. However let’s say you were to lose your KTM1290 across a raging Ford you would find your next renewal may have some amendments.
There was an Aussie you tuber trying to be the next big “influencer” in the 4wd scene. He managed to bog a brand new Mitsubishi in water that was prob bit higher than bonnet level. Anyhow it took some time before he was recovered. In the meantime the water crept past all door seals etc and wrecked all electronics. Write off. His insurance paid out but told him he wouldn’t be covered in same circumstances again.

[pete376403]

Most ADV “river crossings” are splashing through puddles masquerading as creeks. However let’s say you were to lose your KTM1290 across a raging Ford you would find your next renewal may have some amendments.
There was an Aussie you tuber trying to be the next big “influencer” in the 4wd scene. He managed to bog a brand new Mitsubishi in water that was prob bit higher than bonnet level. Anyhow it took some time before he was recovered. In the meantime the water crept past all door seals etc and wrecked all electronics. Write off. His insurance paid out but told him he wouldn’t be covered in same circumstances again.

Dont know where you go riding but where we go, river crossingongs are a quite a lot more than puddles Was with a rider who drowned his 950 KTM in the river running from Napoleon Hill. Got well and truly submerged. Normal recovery procedures (plugs out crank the warer out of the cylinders, drain the carbs, oil change, ensured it restarted and it kept running fine for many years after that.

[husaberg]

Dont know where you go riding but where we go, river crossingongs are a quite a lot more than puddles Was with a rider who drowned his 950 KTM in the river running from Napoleon Hill. Got well and truly submerged. Normal recovery procedures (plugs out crank the warer out of the cylinders, drain the carbs, oil change, ensured it restarted and it kept running fine for many years after that.

If that is the on near Ikamatua he made the mistake of going straight out of the tunnel you need to go further downstream same with the mackley river up between Westport and Inangahua.

[pete376403]

If that is the on near Ikamatua he made the mistake of going straight out of the tunnel you need to go further downstream same with the mackley river up between Westport and Inangahua.

Was in the creek that is between the quite high straight up and down cliffs. Another of our group drowned his DR650 in the mackley - slippery bastard crossing that one.

[husaberg]

Was in the creek that is between the quite high straight up and down cliffs. Another of our group drowned his DR650 in the mackley - slippery bastard crossing that one.

Sorry with the mackley i should say upstream there is a rock you look for if you cant see the rock you dont cross its been years since i have been there.
Hard to believe hundreds of people lived in Napoleon hill.

[pritch]

This is a tale of rebuilding a flood damaged McLaren hybrid. Salt water flooded. Obviously not in this country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f-levD8D_Y&t=11s

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

This thread has 37 pages, 551 replies and 21000 views, and the majority of replies represent an anger or hate towards Musk, which is their prerogative, but I can guarantee this hate & animosity towards Musk was installed by the main stream media, I doubt anyone on this site owns a Tesla, until they will need one like a SpaceX starlink internet satellite.

Instead of being manipulated by someone else's opinion, including mine, why not have your own

[Berries]

This thread has 37 pages, 551 replies and 21000 views, and the majority of replies represent an anger or hate towards Musk,

By what, four or five individuals?

More than half the replies on the first random page I checked were from you. If you stopped waving your poms poms for a bit the thread would die off and disappear.

[mashman]

This thread has 37 pages, 551 replies and 21000 views, and the majority of replies represent an anger or hate towards Musk, which is their prerogative, but I can guarantee this hate & animosity towards Musk was installed by the main stream media, I doubt anyone on this site owns a Tesla, until they will need one like a SpaceX starlink internet satellite.

Instead of being manipulated by someone else's opinion, including mine, why not have your own

A WEF multi-billionaire business man who advocates infinite economics on a finite planet while wasting resources on spaceships to take us to an even more inhospitable place. Hmmmm, what is there to like is a really good question. I bet he's a really nice guy, but he's a businessman that doesn't work according to the boundaries of any sane reality given modern day issues. Give us an infinite planet, and he's a God. Alas........