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**pritch** · 10th June 2023, 21:34

I quite liked the Elsinore. The name stayed the same whichever engine size IIRC.

**husaberg** · 10th June 2023, 22:10

The original t500 was the Cobra

**Grumph** · 11th June 2023, 06:44

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

The worst offender is Hardly Ableson. FXDXKLRZZWTF, etc.

Unless you're one of the cool kids ("Harley guy" not "motorbike person") then you dont care to be bothered learning the shit.

I do want this "Harley" Aermacchi 350 though.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/m...1&bof=2i7eR32z

That is nice. Italian home market maybe. I'd thought that all the 350's badged HD went into the porky HD frame. I'd wonder if it's a 350 in a 250 frame.
Despite the GN250 ignition - which was one of my trademarks - I'm not the marque specialist who built the engine.

**roogazza** · 11th June 2023, 07:09

Mate had a Honko or Honcho 90 , when i had a turtle chaser Honda SL125......

Many ,many Moons ago.....

**F5 Dave** · 11th June 2023, 07:22

Originally Posted by Stylo

But, there will only be one Hayabusa. . .

Don't worry, it will be reused on an electric scooter soon enough. There were Katana scooters in the 90s.

**F5 Dave** · 11th June 2023, 07:25

Hodaka which was the next in line in Japanese trail bikes had the wonderfully named Combat Wombat. Now there's a cool name for down the pub to make you sound dangerous.

**husaberg** · 11th June 2023, 09:14

Originally Posted by F5 Dave

Hodaka which was the next in line in Japanese trail bikes had the wonderfully named Combat Wombat. Now there's a cool name for down the pub to make you sound dangerous.

i had forgot about them the had the
Super rat

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Then the super combat
Then the fastest combat wombat.

okay never heard of this one the dirt squirt

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Years ago my father had a Hodaka 100cc engine in bits from a 100cc Indian 2 stroke reboot from the 70's
Everything was tiny.

**husaberg** · 11th June 2023, 09:34

Originally Posted by Grumph

That is nice. Italian home market maybe. I'd thought that all the 350's badged HD went into the porky HD frame. I'd wonder if it's a 350 in a 250 frame.
Despite the GN250 ignition - which was one of my trademarks - I'm not the marque specialist who built the engine.

What suprised me most was it was 4 spreed were only the street harley framed ones from 72ish on 5 Speed?

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Was the ugly egg engine only used in the States?
Years ago i had access to a book that had all the models sold in the states from all the manufacturers from the early to the lates 60's.
The number of models produced from HD Aermacchi was mind-blowing.

**Grumph** · 11th June 2023, 10:52

To the best of my knowledge the electric start models are all 5 speed. Never seen a road kickstart engine with 5 speeds - but it's possible.
Again the ashpan head versions I've only ever seen 4 speed. The yanks hated that head but there's nothing wrong with it from a performance view.
Don't think it's an ugly egg....

**husaberg** · 11th June 2023, 11:18

Originally Posted by Grumph

To the best of my knowledge the electric start models are all 5 speed. Never seen a road kickstart engine with 5 speeds - but it's possible.
Again the ashpan head versions I've only ever seen 4 speed. The yanks hated that head but there's nothing wrong with it from a performance view.

Out of interest do the cylinder barrels swap between either of them?

i have had a look through i can only see 73 on with 5 speed so all "knuckle" headed electric start
The only reason I dont like the egg heads or as you say ashpan as they dont look like the real Ala D'oro.

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**Racing Dave** · 11th June 2023, 11:54

Originally Posted by F5 Dave

Hodaka which was the next in line in Japanese trail bikes had the wonderfully named Combat Wombat. Now there's a cool name for down the pub to make you sound dangerous.

...and the street version was the Road Toad.

**Grumph** · 11th June 2023, 12:15

Originally Posted by husaberg

Out of interest do the cylinder barrels swap between either of them?

i have had a look through i can only see 73 on with 5 speed so all "knuckle" headed electric start
The only reason I dont like the egg heads or as you say ashpan as they dont look like the real Ala D'oro.

Yeah, top end swaps are easy. Bike in my pic is 4 speed cases with 5 speed grafted in. Which is only possible due to carbide lathe tips. 4 speed layshaft bearings are smaller than 5 speed and you can't change them. Yanks haven't woken up to that so 4 speed cases - which are stronger - are unwanted thus cheap.
There's actually an oil sprayer inside the big lid on the ashpan heads. The large surface area of the lid acts as an oil cooler.

**Dak S83** · 11th June 2023, 16:49

I'll have whatever drugs this guy is on, just cause you were an idiot and got ripped off and spent that much on it doesn't mean its worth it.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/m...0?bof=Rggwrvsw

**F5 Dave** · 11th June 2023, 17:22

Look I don't think it is fair to say he was ripped off. Resto takes a long time and if you ask a bike shop to do it all they have to charge every hour of research etc or they are losing money they could have otherwise earned.

But you would be mad to think you would get that money back.

Heck that would be a great heavy tourer. You'd struggle to ask much more than 15k I'd say compared to what else you could get.

So. Drugs. Yeah that's probably a fair slur.