Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[Kickaha]

That perspective is very difficult to fault. Thank you for posting that.

Someone will be along shortly to tell you how wrong you are

[TheDemonLord]

It just seems to me that Trump wants to help out with the genocide even more than just selling all the bullets and the bombs.

Not that he will be around in five years.

Interesting read here about the coup that Musk has carried out, and before anyone asks I have no idea who the author is, whether he is left or right or who he votes for and I don't care. i just thought it was an interesting perspective on the whole very unusual Musk issue.

of-course-its-a-coup

So, a historian that specializes in Holocaust and Nazi Germany - thinks Trump is a Dictator.

Skim-reading, the guy has full blown TDS. In his other works make multiple desperate references to Nazi history (Krystallnacht, Reichstag fire etc.)

Note - the one thing he never mentions in his article is that no Dictator in history ever shrunk the size of Government. Turns out that in order to oppress people you need to increase the size of the Government....

However - I want to focus solely on one area:

In gaining the ability to stop payments by the Department of the Treasury, Musk would also make democracy meaningless. We vote for representatives in Congress, who pass laws that determine how our tax money is spent. If Musk has the power to halt this process at the level of payment, he can make laws meaningless. Which means, in turn, that Congress is meaningless, and our votes are meaningless, as is our citizenship

A wonderful peice of sweeping rhetorhic. Now, if I had made similar grandiose claims during the Biden or Stalinda premierships - the various baying herds would have laughed at me - but it is against Trump and not the Left-Wing, which means it is okay to do and is supported by the Left-Wing Media etc....

However those who are well read in American politics would know that this is not the case. Control of the executive branch of the US Government is entirely the purview of The President and those they appoint.

This little bait-and-switch is rather telling, especially from a man who has published a great wealth of work on how to recognize Propaganda.

Case-in-point: The FBI - signed into existence by Charles Bonaparte, then Attorney General (which is part of the Executive branch, not Congress)

Musk, as an appointment by the President just like the creation of the FBI does get to go in and halt payments that are under the purview of the executive branch.

Congress is the legislative branch. Which leads to the following conclusion:

Either this individual does not know how the US political system functions - and given his prolific number of writings on the subject, I dont think that is a reasonable one....

Or he is lying.

And someone with full blown TDS who sees Nazi Parrallels with everything Trump does - would they lie to their audience to gin up book sales and feverish outrage?

Sounds a lot more likely than not knowing the basics of the US political system, doesn't it.

[TheDemonLord]

I hope it’s a ploy, but surely there’s only so many times you can feint before your opponents begin to catch on. Then what?

That is the thing though - Trump seems to have this wonderful ability to throw out 10 impossible things - and once all the chaos and gnashing of teeth settles - the opposition has agreed to 3 of them that they otherwise would not have agreed to.

[Berries]

Sounds a lot more likely than not knowing the basics of the US political system, doesn't it.

Don't know, don't care.

I posted it for people to read not as an essay subject.

That came out wrong, no offence meant

[TheDemonLord]

Don't know, don't care.

I posted it for people to read not as an essay subject.

If Trump said something that was to the same degree, factually untrue - there would be media articles about it - at least 4 regular contributors here would be posting links to outrage articles in the Guardian etc.

I read it - yes, from an admittedly hostile perspective, but what I saw within was wild conjecture, historical illiteracy (which given his specialist field is hilarious) and hyperbole of the highest order.

I posted a quote to show how his entire chain of 'Logic' to infer that:

if Musk can stop US Tax payer money being wasted on ideological crusades in foreign countries, then that means a US Citizenship is no longer valid...

Is all predicated on a lie. And I use lie because for someone as well read and well written as him, ignorance simply does not pass the sniff test.

[pritch]

Shot!

IIRC it was Ms Lahren's ancestor who was prosecuted for forging immigration papers way back when. She is MAGA so is probably anti-immigrant but not a deep thinker.

[sugilite:Me]

First criminally convicted illegitimately elected trump fired prosecutors working on his cases, and now he is going after individual FBI agents assigned to do investigations by their superiors. They were investigating a crime everyone saw being committed on tv. It is not like agents have a choice to investigate or not based on whether they liked the perp or if they were one political side or the other. This one FBI agent that wrote the letter, listen to all the good he has done for the country, how many he has protected, the sacrifices he has made. The FBI are about to lose many, many like him and people will die without their experienced service - no doubt about that. All in order to appease a thin skinned vindictive piece of shit.

[sugilite:Me]

Trump admits his blaming the air tragedy on DEI was a disgusting political stunt. Naturally he will not learn from this and will continue doing the same to keep his demonmagas blindly defending him.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/3...pter-collision

[TheDemonLord]

First criminally convicted illegitimately elected trump fired prosecutors working on his cases, and now he is going after individual FBI agents assigned to do investigations by their superiors. They were investigating a crime everyone saw being committed on tv. It is not like agents have a choice to investigate or not based on whether they liked the perp or if they were one political side or the other. This one FBI agent that wrote the letter, listen to all the good he has done for the country, how many he has protected, the sacrifices he has made. The FBI are about to lose many, many like him and people will die without their experienced service - no doubt about that. All in order to appease a thin skinned vindictive piece of shit.

So, the FBI were 'Only following Orders'....

[F5 Dave]

Jesus you are Scum.

Everyone should be prosecuted if they break the law.
And yes you can throw Hunter Biden or Hillary under the bus, I would include all if they meet the threshold.

No one should be above the law.

Don't try to use Whataboutism. You have no moral compass. You will justify anything in the name of your Orange Jesus.

[TheDemonLord]

Jesus you are Scum.

Everyone should be prosecuted if they break the law.
And yes you can throw Hunter Biden or Hillary under the bus, I would include all if they meet the threshold.

No one should be above the law.

Don't try to use Whataboutism. You have no moral compass. You will justify anything in the name of your Orange Jesus.

Many people, before Trump got back into office - pointed out the politically charged nature of these 'Investigations'

Like here

and here

or here

Whether it was the Russia Hoax that originated from the Hilary Campaign, the Laptop that was totally *not* Hunters, The Document raids, the moving a misdemenor crime that had expired the statute of limitations to a federal charge, by asserting it was done in the aid of a crime (that no one can agree what crime it was done in aid of...) - the fact is, The US Justice department went after a Presidential candidate like no other time in history that I can think of.

And everyone who went along with it is complicit.

All those agents had to do was stand on principles and say that it was politically motivated - but they didnt. They did the dirty work to appease their democrat masters - and now those cows are coming home to roost.

Now the shoe is on the other foot, they are getting the consequences of their actions - and I couldnt be happier.

[sugilite:Me]

I have bad news for these guys - nazi musk will have 100% already put in back doors into the system as he already had access to it.

[F5 Dave]

Many people, before Trump got back into office - pointed out the politically charged nature of these 'Investigations'

Like here

and here

or here

Whether it was the Russia Hoax that originated from the Hilary Campaign, the Laptop that was totally *not* Hunters, The Document raids, the moving a misdemenor crime that had expired the statute of limitations to a federal charge, by asserting it was done in the aid of a crime (that no one can agree what crime it was done in aid of...) - the fact is, The US Justice department went after a Presidential candidate like no other time in history that I can think of.

And everyone who went along with it is complicit.

All those agents had to do was stand on principles and say that it was politically motivated - but they didnt. They did the dirty work to appease their democrat masters - and now those cows are coming home to roost.

Now the shoe is on the other foot, they are getting the consequences of their actions - and I couldnt be happier.

Your entire post is Whataboutism. The point was not to use it.

[pritch]

I have bad news for these guys - nazi musk will have 100% already put in back doors into the system as he already had access to it.

Highly likely. Most politicians will not even be aware of the possibility. Ted Lieu is one of the very few people in Congress who understands IT. Computer people and politicians are usually very different people. Computer people mostly work alone problem solving. Politicians are herd creatures happiest in a meeting. (Meetings have the bonus in that you can get paid for sitting doing nothing.)

[pritch]

Your entire post is Whataboutism. The point was not to use it.

Geez don't quote DTL I'm trying to avoid the aggravation. For instance he mentioned the" Russia hoax". It wasn't hoax, it was proven. There were hundreds of contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia, there was an office in Moscow operated by military intelligence and US arrest warrants were issued for the operators, there was the misinformation office the IRA in St Petersburg. This was all proven. Trump's campaign chairman was sent to prison. That Trump claims it was all a hoax is just not credible.