Luxon ?

[wetanz]

if only his dad had settled for a few more cranks rather than some missionary work there would be no Luxton......

naya - are you sure the genetics run true - luxon has an uncanny physical similarity to muldoon, and was born when 'robbie' was at the height of politics ... thea n kids were there to be seen n not heard

[husaberg]

naya - are you sure the genetics run true - luxon has an uncanny physical similarity to muldoon, and was born when 'robbie' was at the height of politics ... thea n kids were there to be seen n not heard

I would ask, but it appears luxton is to busy to answer questions......

[Grumph]

Highly amused to see in an online article that Luxon's handshake is becoming the kiss of death.

The last three world leaders he's shaken hands with have all dropped out of the job.
In the case of the Singapore PM, immediately after leaving Luxon.

I'm sure we could come up with a list of countries we want him to visit.....

[HenryDorsetCase]

naya - are you sure the genetics run true - luxon has an uncanny physical similarity to muldoon, and was born when 'robbie' was at the height of politics ... thea n kids were there to be seen n not heard

If you're interested there's a really good podcast series on the The Spinoff called "Juggernaut" about the fourth labour government (84 - Lange and Douglas). The first episode is scene setting and talks extenisvely about NZ in the Muldoon era. I am old enough to remember it (though I was utterly uninterested in it at the time) and its just excellent. Anyway the takehome is that Muldoon was a number one grade A cunt. And somehow managed to disguise a soviet era command economy as the "farmers party" or whatever the neshnuls were then. https://thespinoff.co.nz/podcasts/juggernaut

Anyway, recommended.

[husaberg]

If you're interested there's a really good podcast series on the The Spinoff called "Juggernaut" about the fourth labour government (84 - Lange and Douglas). The first episode is scene setting and talks extenisvely about NZ in the Muldoon era. I am old enough to remember it (though I was utterly uninterested in it at the time) and its just excellent. Anyway the takehome is that Muldoon was a number one grade A cunt.

I'd normally agree with you ol Henry , he was well thought of here in the farming sect as he underwrote the freezing works here when the idea was floated a whole heap of mum and dad invested brought the shares.
prior to that the coast was used a hold paddock for the other areas only killing our cattle for f all when it suited them, ie after the peak periods. He was actually genuinely liked here. it's odd how socialist and protectionist he was, when douglas and Prebble were later in the left party far more trght wing than even National were. that said was he actually populist?

[wetanz]

If you're interested there's a really good podcast series on the The Spinoff called "Juggernaut" about the fourth labour government (84 - Lange and Douglas). The first episode is scene setting and talks extenisvely about NZ in the Muldoon era. I am old enough to remember it (though I was utterly uninterested in it at the time) and its just excellent. Anyway the takehome is that Muldoon was a number one grade A cunt. And somehow managed to disguise a soviet era command economy as the "farmers party" or whatever the neshnuls were then. https://thespinoff.co.nz/podcasts/juggernaut

Anyway, recommended.

... will check it out ... yes, 'piggy' wasnt a term of endearment ... he rose to the chairs of the world bank, the imf and oecd - totalitarian globalist to the core ... i remember 'think big' ... wasnt well liked in our household, (1951 watersiders, 1913 gt strike and 1890)

[R650R]

BOOM bang on the money

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360...rmite-sandwich

This is what most of us had on a good day if we were lucky. The sense of entitlement these days that the free lunch should be some MasterChef special is staggering.

[sugilite:Me]

BOOM bang on the money

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360...rmite-sandwich

This is what most of us had on a good day if we were lucky. The sense of entitlement these days that the free lunch should be some MasterChef special is staggering.

Had you considered that if a students diet was otherwise good, sure a marmite sandwich would suffice. However with the wealth gap ever increasing and more and more people falling into poverty as each successive Government fails to address core issues, many school age children are under nourished, under fed due to genuine financial restraints. Thus, for these students - and there are many, a fucking marmite sandwich is not going to cut it.
At least with the old system, the meals were nutritional and thus useful. Seymour needs to quit the smarmy comments, and sort it right out.
The whole situation needs a little more thought put in to resolve it. Luxons comments highlight how he has not the slightest idea how many nz people live day to day. The more I see of him, the more I detest what I see. Seymour too has dropped a lot in my opinion. Examples of seymours "tasty" lunches below. What a cunt. These kids need a healthy diet that at least features some greens, not this slop.

[TheDemonLord]

BOOM bang on the money

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360...rmite-sandwich

This is what most of us had on a good day if we were lucky. The sense of entitlement these days that the free lunch should be some MasterChef special is staggering.

The comment section is an interesting place.

There was one comment that stood out - someone who is clearly on the Left (they said they loathed Luxon and Seymour) - but also acknowledged that they make sure their kids have lunch provided first and foremost - and if you dont like something that is free - do it yourself.

[TheDemonLord]

The more I see of him, the more I detest what I see. Seymour too has dropped a lot in my opinion. Examples of seymours "tasty" lunches below. What a cunt. These kids need a healthy diet that at least features some greens, not this slop.

Looks much the same as I remember the school lunches looking like back when I was in school.

I have cooked worse (and to be fair, much better) - I have also eaten worse - especially when really hungry.

If the kids are as hungry as the media is making them out to be, then a little bit of burn on Spaghetti and Meatballs is no impediment to wolfing it down. Not great, granted - but I have yet to die from overcooking meatballs, besides - that is why there is a sauce.

I also would ask - I can see peas, carrots, corn etc. in the pictures. I am sure there is Onion, Garlic etc. in the Meatballs - are they not Greens...

Finally - Given that we know that Teachers overwhelmingly vote Labour and the Greens - do you not think that there might be an ulterior motive to present a narrative that the system is a total shambles, perhaps motivated by ideological opposition to Luxon and Seymour....

[neels]

Although the expression beggars can't be choosers does come to mind, there is still the aspect of what value for money the taxpayer is getting.

The thing that stands out in those pictures is the vast amount of rubbish going into landfill every day, I doubt most schools in the country are properly equipped to produce food in any sort of quantity, so instead we have an incredibly inefficient system of producing food off site then transporting to the school.

Of course there are going to be quality issues where the facilities don't exist to properly heat or reheat food that was made some time earlier in the hope that it will still be edible when lunch time comes around.

I can completely understand the complaints where there were satisfactory local arrangements for providing lunches that kids actually wanted to eat, unfortunately centralisation drives out any innovative thinking and opportunity for community involvement in achieving an acceptable outcome, it does however provide opportunities for corporates to bid for contracts and then cut costs at every opportunity to maximise profit.

[pritch]

BOOM bang on the money
This is what most of us had on a good day if we were lucky. The sense of entitlement these days that the free lunch should be some MasterChef special is staggering.

We must've been upperclass. We had lettuce in our Vegemite sandwiches.

Many countries supply lunches now and some of them do it well, NZ is apparently not one such. Putting someone with a libertarian point of view in charge of anything that might be perceived of as charity is just stupid. The food doesn't have to be high cuisine but it does need to be nutritious and it should look appealing otherwise too much will be wasted.

Anhoo we've had a glimpse of Seymours organisational skills. He hasn't got any.

[sugilite:Me]

This one is more important to me than trump, so you get a reply.

Looks much the same as I remember the school lunches looking like back when I was in school.

What percentage of your class mates would you say lived in poverty and were malnourished as a result? You know the main thrust of my point.

I have cooked worse (and to be fair, much better) - I have also eaten worse - especially when really hungry.

Are you really hungry every day without a choice in the matter?

If the kids are as hungry as the media is making them out to be, then a little bit of burn on Spaghetti and Meatballs is no impediment to wolfing it down. Not great, granted - but I have yet to die from overcooking meatballs, besides - that is why there is a sauce.

You clearly have no concept of poverty and what that entails. There needs to be balanced nutrition. These meals are anything but. I would rather my tax dollars go to a nutritional hand up to these children rather than this bullshit.

I also would ask - I can see peas, carrots, corn etc. in the pictures. I am sure there is Onion, Garlic etc. in the Meatballs - are they not Greens...

I must be fucking colour blind as the closest I can see to green in those meals is pasty yellow soggy peas. I'm talking real greens if I can say that word without triggering you.

Finally - Given that we know that Teachers overwhelmingly vote Labour and the Greens - do you not think that there might be an ulterior motive to present a narrative that the system is a total shambles, perhaps motivated by ideological opposition to Luxon and Seymour....

This is so absolutely tiresome from you, yet another shoot the messenger post. Is it so hard to understand that when you get a corporation that is notorious for cutting corners to provide mass produced low nutrition meals for a tiny budget that the outcome is of a very low quality?

[sugilite:Me]

This cockwomble should not be in charge, he cannot even ask a pretty benign no brainer question without being - well a cockwomble.

https://www.youtube.com/live/TGzacuM...7fZfN9ZJ&t=232

[husaberg]

This one is more important to me than trump, so you get a reply.

What percentage of your class mates would you say lived in poverty and were malnourished as a result? You know the main thrust of my point.


Are you really hungry every day without a choice in the matter?


You clearly have no concept of poverty and what that entails. There needs to be balanced nutrition. These meals are anything but. I would rather my tax dollars go to a nutritional hand up to these children rather than this ?

Melted plastic , I don't consider that to be only lacking in asthetic appeal.