The time has come!!!

**davereid** · 21st July 2007, 17:09

Lots of bikes are sold new with aftermarket mufflers. All the lots of TL's and SV's came out with 2 bros pipes as an option from the NZ importer, my bike had a LV pipe as a NZ "factory" option from day 1 and got its first WOF with one. So who's to say whats the "original" ? I'd argue my pipe was !

**Grahameeboy** · 21st July 2007, 17:14

http://http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/certi...cles-11-v3.pdf

**Grahameeboy** · 21st July 2007, 17:17

Originally Posted by davereid

Lots of bikes are sold new with aftermarket mufflers. All the lots of TL's and SV's came out with 2 bros pipes as an option from the NZ importer, my bike had a LV pipe as a NZ "factory" option from day 1 and got its first WOF with one. So who's to say whats the "original" ? I'd argue my pipe was !

Well you just said "After Market" so that kills that argument...sorry.

NZ Factory fitted is a bit iffy cause all NZ do is put the bikes together once received from the Manufacturer so an aftermarket muffler would be a modification to manufactures specification.

**Bullitt** · 21st July 2007, 17:31

Originally Posted by crshbndct

just get a muffler quitener thiingy like what the boyracers use

theyre legal and if installed and make it quiet its ok.

Theyre only legal if theyre permanently welded in though. A bolted in silencer would be a fail as testers are well aware itd come out as soon as you got home.

**Grahameeboy** · 21st July 2007, 17:35

Originally Posted by Bullitt

Theyre only legal if theyre permanently welded in though. A bolted in silencer would be a fail as testers are well aware itd come out as soon as you got home.

Are you sure.....I mean what about tyres as same could happen.....WOF is only a test on the day.

I mean it's like say a tyre with 2mm of tread, ie the legal limit but the guy decides to fail the WOF because by the time you get home the tyre tread depth is 1.99mm so below the legal limit

**davereid** · 21st July 2007, 17:42

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

Well you just said "After Market" so that kills that argument...sorry.

NZ Factory fitted is a bit iffy cause all NZ do is put the bikes together once received from the Manufacturer so an aftermarket muffler would be a modification to manufactures specification.

Hmm maybe true, except my bike never knew another pipe.. it was born with a LV pipe. Bikes and cars have different specs in different countries, and a lot of those decisions are delegated to the local assembler.

Lots of manufacturers use "aftermarket" parts too. Look for "Brembo" components on a Suzuki near you ! (At least for some markets..!)

Thanks, the link you provided was useful... the rating is very subjective, so if you fail your WOF, take your business elsewhere.

**Chrislost** · 21st July 2007, 17:46

Originally Posted by Sensei

Well we have all heard about the Mufller & sound level etc for motorbikes but it is now become a reality !! . Mate went to take has Aprilia which is fitted with a compelte Twin muffler TigCraft system on it to the local shop for a WOF so thought he'd just book it in & while doing so was told that they wouldn't give the bike a WOF or any other bike that has an after market muffler on it ?? . If it isn't standard factory fit then no WOF . They had given him a Wof 6 months ago with the same system on but no go now . He hasn't got a standard system for the bike as it had the Tigcraft on when he brought the bike . This is going to open up a massive can of Whip Arse I can see . Not to mention the fact that I have a " Not for Highway use " Akrapovic race muffler on my RSVR with no standard can to swap it over for Wof time either . So finding a standard one has now become a reality as well .

name and shame. [edit] the shop
i dont want my yoshi failing because it sounds better then standard

**imdying** · 21st July 2007, 18:16

Originally Posted by davereid

Lots of manufacturers use "aftermarket" parts too. Look for "Brembo" components on a Suzuki near you ! (At least for some markets..!)

No, by that logic Tokico calipers would be in the same basket, the Brembos fitted by the factory are OEM parts.

**MSTRS:Me** · 21st July 2007, 18:27

Originally Posted by davereid

Thanks, the link you provided was useful... the rating is very subjective, so if you fail your WOF, take your business elsewhere.

I found the relevant page after a bit of searching LTSAs site. It describes the requirements as they stand at the moment. The BUT is that sometime in the next few weeks, that rule will be replaced, meaning all who have aftermarket pipes will have to get a LVV cert.

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**Conquiztador** · 21st July 2007, 18:41

Originally Posted by MSTRS

I found the relevant page after a bit of searching LTSAs site. It describes the requirements as they stand at the moment. The BUT is that sometime in the next few weeks, that rule will be replaced, meaning all who have aftermarket pipes will have to get a LVV cert.

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Are U saying that all the guys who do WOF will know what is an original muffler and what is an after market one? Somehow I do not think so... So it will be down to interpretations.

**Grahameeboy** · 21st July 2007, 18:46

Originally Posted by davereid

Hmm maybe true, except my bike never knew another pipe.. it was born with a LV pipe. Bikes and cars have different specs in different countries, and a lot of those decisions are delegated to the local assembler.

Lots of manufacturers use "aftermarket" parts too. Look for "Brembo" components on a Suzuki near you ! (At least for some markets..!)

Thanks, the link you provided was useful... the rating is very subjective, so if you fail your WOF, take your business elsewhere.

Your bike would have started with standard pipes when it was rolled out if the Factory.

Bikes with Brembo's, Ohlins etc....well they were fitted by the Manufacturer so is standard specification for the intended market

**Chrislost** · 21st July 2007, 18:56

if its anythign like what they did to cars when boyracing became mainstream(wtf) then itl be a big mess for the next 5 years!
hell its still fucked!

**boomer** · 21st July 2007, 18:57

plonk the standard on when WOF time comes or take it to a bike shop;

get stopped.. take the after market of and get a copy wof and voila.. job done.

unless of course you dont have a standard pipe

hey.. that reminds me; i have an '05 cbr6oo rr stock pipe for sale

and a brand new swing arm... anyone?

**Sensei** · 21st July 2007, 20:39

New Plymouth Motorcycles is the shop which declined the WOF . They just want Factory systems ! That way they don't get into a argument over what is & what isn't acceptable plain & simple . Have Standard pipe jacked up now so will take bike into LTS Wof station next week & see what happens with the Very loud Akrapovic pipe on .