Yes carver im sure you do alot of runners on your bikeOriginally Posted by Grahameeboy
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Yes carver im sure you do alot of runners on your bike
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
.....your time is coming
It would not be the speed, it would be the 'unreasonable care' clause that they would throw at you......in practice they have to prove 'Wrecklessness' so that would be easy.
L-Plate Rider
Good quesion Jake
I suspect not as you would more than likely be speeding
lol nice thought but you would be insulting the judges intelligences so that's not really in damage control mode
Yeah & if you do continue that theme it will go along way. Many moons ago I got busted doing 170Km/h in a car. All the conditions were perfect, the car was a soopted up sports car, very suited to the task, the roads were clear of cars (10pm on a Sunday night). It was a real nice piece of road, straight for miles with very gentle corners etc and very dry....anyway, I passed a cop doin 170 (slowing down too I was) and I pulled over, sat on the bonnet and waited for him. He was well impressed I didn't run & was very appreciative. I was polite to him, we chatted about the car (he was interested in what work had been done to it etc) so I showed him under the hood. He wrote out the ticket and I said thank you and have a good night. When I got to court I wore a suit, I stood there with my hands behind my back and my head down (not too far down) but enough to look full of remorse. They read out the charge & asked if I had anything to say for myself, I looked up and said "there is no excuse for what I did your honour". They fluffed on a bit more and once again asked the same question. I repeated the same and added that I was very sorry that I was taking up the courts valuable time with my senseless act.
At that time (1996) the max instant fine was $490 (51Km'h over any posted limit & your up for a lot more than that + loss of licence). I got ordered to pay $350 + $90 court costs & made to resit the theory side of my licence.............that's it. Part of there lenience was due to the fact that I pulled over quickly and was not only polite to the police officer but showed respect to the system in court. It goes along way
The funny part was I failed the theory & was unable to re sit that for two weeks, so I actually lost it for those two weeks lol
All the best with the courts & remember your body language & clothing will speak volumes. You get only one chance at first impressions & it really isn't hard to stand out from the usually bafoons that fill our courts
Well, my first time in court was about 16 years ago when I was an irresponsible teenager and got done for drink driving. I was shitting myself as I got all dressed up in my tidiest threads and sat in court amongst all the local mongrel mob members, I must have stuck out like a sore thumb dressed in my Sundays best and all....I sat there for about 3 hours, listening to the fines getting handed down to those before me.....$300 fine, 6 months loss, $350 6 months loss, most of these were for people 2 or 3 times the legal limit....
Finally it was my turn and I was feeling a bit better about things because I was only 411ml/ls and the limit was 400ml/ls...(or something like that).......................WELL!.....The judge took one look at me then asked if I was employed....yes I said.....he then had the gall to ask how much money I made...I was lost for words, he then proceeded to dish out a long winded lecture before finally declaring...........$900 fine, 9 months loss of license....
My advice to you, show remorse, acknowledge you made an error in judgment, dress in rags and look unemployable....
Queen of Chief and Victorious
You know for once I think I agree with renegade master... write a letter and be polite, it may just save you a bit by not wasting the courts time.
Bummer you got caught... but it is all in the luck of the draw, we all speed from time to time, and should just accept the consequences as you have. Good luck, hope it works out at only 3 months for you
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Forum whore
LMFAO!!! Heathen, had a good ol giggle at that one
That's pretty unlucky mate.
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Fair weather rider
So the next Mongrel Mobs members would have been given lesser fines because they couldn't pay? Senseless. What a sad socialist society we have.Well, my first time in court was about 16 years ago when I was an irresponsible teenager and got done for drink driving. I was shitting myself as I got all dressed up in my tidiest threads and sat in court amongst all the local mongrel mob members, I must have stuck out like a sore thumb dressed in my Sundays best and all....I sat there for about 3 hours, listening to the fines getting handed down to those before me.....$300 fine, 6 months loss, $350 6 months loss, most of these were for people 2 or 3 times the legal limit....
Finally it was my turn and I was feeling a bit better about things because I was only 411ml/ls and the limit was 400ml/ls...(or something like that).......................WELL!.....The judge took one look at me then asked if I was employed....yes I said.....he then had the gall to ask how much money I made...I was lost for words, he then proceeded to dish out a long winded lecture before finally declaring...........$900 fine, 9 months loss of license....
My advice to you, show remorse, acknowledge you made an error in judgment, dress in rags and look unemployable....
hungover
Slightly off topic but I couldn't help but notice the differences between this and Sanx's thread.
This guy says he wasn't riding carelessly yet admits fault and I don't see any of the gang from Sanx's leaping to his defence about the speed limit etc. They say that speed doesn't matter so what's the difference between 12k's over the limit and 53?
Just a gentle observation.
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Since Zelto is new, he probably doesn't have as many sympathisers, KB believes if a guy is well known he can speed, do anything. Newbies usually get red repped and treated with less camaraderie.
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I believe you will get treated like a criminal unless proven innocent. Most people run as they want to get away from the location of the criminal act they recently convicted or they wish to hurriedly transport their illicit materials.
Then you'd probably never get insurance for yoinks, you'd fail any decent employment reference check. You may have issues visiting places like the Useless of Arse, etc...
You're grandkids if you have some, will think you're a loser, if they find out, as will your friends.
"I successfully did a runner"- cool man, awesome eh, grunt, grunt...
"Damn I got pinged" - What? How could you do such a thing, have you thought that my daughter, mother, pet beetle, may have been on the road, you should be ashamed...hypocritical crap, hypocritical waffle...
hungover
Ah, thanks. That clears a few things up.
Iiimbecile-baiting since 2007
Probably because the sanctimonious holier-than-thou hypocritical speed Nazis haven't appeared on this thread spelling out their fairy-tale prophecies of wanton destruction should someone dare to exceed an arbitrary bureacrat-imposed speed limit. Of which, I seem to remember, you are one.
it also might be that the purpose behind Zelto's post was completely different; I was whining about being pinged for 12k over the limit, and Zelto was asking what happens and what he can expect for 53k over the limit. Unlike my thread, Zelto was not questioning the merits or otherwise of issuing tickets for speeding.
Want me to carry on, or has my point sunk in yet?
Forum whore
Hitcher, just an observation, but is that 71 posts to Godwin's Law? Is it?
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Iiimbecile-baiting since 2007
Be careful about quoting Godwin's Law, my young friend ... unless you want to find yourself defending an accusation made out in Reason magazine concerning its misuse.
Forum whore
Hmm. There's no way a speedo in either km/h or mph could read 153 while you're riding legally. So you'd either have to say you thought the speed [b]limit[/] was in mph while your speedo was in km/h, or that you were thoroughly confused about the conversion thing, which seems to be your case ...nooo 153k is only 95 miles per hour , under the 100 mark on the speedo..... therefore as you were unused to the bike you hadn't realised the mistake.
[Edit: with a bit of playing around with the Google calculator, your best bet for claiming an odd speedo might be that it reads in angstroms per nanosecond (or decimetres per second, which is the same thing), which would give you 55 km/h. But they might not believe you.]
Richard
One hell of a ride.
Well Mr Zelto - I feel for you. A mere twist of the wrist a might too long in 3rd gear and it's grief, and then blanket judgments on here.
If I were in your situation - and gawd knows I've been close - i would engage the services of the best and most experienced firm of solicitors I could afford and follow their advice.
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