153kmh in 100kmh zone

[jafar]

Hmm. There's no way a speedo in either km/h or mph could read 153 while you're riding legally. So you'd either have to say you thought the speed [b]limit[/] was in mph while your speedo was in km/h, or that you were thoroughly confused about the conversion thing, which seems to be your case ...

[Edit: with a bit of playing around with the Google calculator, your best bet for claiming an odd speedo might be that it reads in angstroms per nanosecond (or decimetres per second, which is the same thing), which would give you 55 km/h. But they might not believe you.]

Richard

If you are reading a MPH speedo @ 95 your speed in KPH is about 153. I'm not confused @ all
As for thinking the speed limit is 100 MPH then getting pinged @ 153 KPH you would still be under the limit ... 100 MPH = 160 KPH

[Mekk]

Probably because the sanctimonious holier-than-thou hypocritical speed Nazis haven't appeared on this thread spelling out their fairy-tale prophecies of wanton destruction should someone dare to exceed an arbitrary bureacrat-imposed speed limit. Of which, I seem to remember, you are one.

That's quite a title, not sure how it'd look on my CV.

Regardless, you taking a discussion thread personally is not of my concern.

it also might be that the purpose behind Zelto's post was completely different; I was whining about being pinged for 12k over the limit, and Zelto was asking what happens and what he can expect for 53k over the limit. Unlike my thread, Zelto was not questioning the merits or otherwise of issuing tickets for speeding.

Want me to carry on, or has my point sunk in yet?

I was comparing the attitudes and opinions towards that of the OP, not the question itself. Rafiki said it best: "Look....haaaarder."

But by all means carry on, that first sentence was pretty entertaining I must say.

[rwh]

If you are reading a MPH speedo @ 95 your speed in KPH is about 153. I'm not confused @ all

Ah well, if you actually had a mph speedo, that might be different. You were suggesting claiming you thought you had one (implying you didn't). Of course, if someone actually checks your speedo you're screwed.

As for thinking the speed limit is 100 MPH then getting pinged @ 153 KPH you would still be under the limit ... 100 MPH = 160 KPH

If you think the limit is 100mph (and you're doing close to that) and it's actually 100km/h, then you're still well over ...

Richard

[heathen]

Well, my first time in court was about 16 years ago when I was an irresponsible teenager and got done for drink driving. I was shitting myself as I got all dressed up in my tidiest threads and sat in court amongst all the local mongrel mob members, I must have stuck out like a sore thumb dressed in my Sundays best and all....I sat there for about 3 hours, listening to the fines getting handed down to those before me.....$300 fine, 6 months loss, $350 6 months loss, most of these were for people 2 or 3 times the legal limit....
Finally it was my turn and I was feeling a bit better about things because I was only 411ml/ls and the limit was 400ml/ls...(or something like that).......................WELL!.....The judge took one look at me then asked if I was employed....yes I said.....he then had the gall to ask how much money I made...I was lost for words, he then proceeded to dish out a long winded lecture before finally declaring...........$900 fine, 9 months loss of license....

My advice to you, show remorse, acknowledge you made an error in judgment, dress in rags and look unemployable....

LMFAO!!! Heathen, had a good ol giggle at that one

That's pretty unlucky mate.

Glad to add a laugh to your day.....
I was gutted at the time, but from that court appearance and a few others in the years after that I have learnt alot, especially that it's not beneath some police officers to lie through their teeth, and to dispute EVERYTHING!!!...
I was pretty naive as a youth and thought that the courts and law in this country were fair and just.....

[jafar]

Ah well, if you actually had a mph speedo, that might be different. You were suggesting claiming you thought you had one (implying you didn't). Of course, if someone actually checks your speedo you're screwed.

But he's screwed now


If you think the limit is 100mph (and you're doing close to that) and it's actually 100km/h, then you're still well over ...

Richard

Close but not quite, I do still have some grip on the reality that 100k is the limit.
Having said that, nothing is illegal so long as you don't get caught

[Patrick]

If you're running away from cops and bin it... Are you still insured?

Nope... committing offence using your vehicle = no insurance.

Clean record helps... remorse helps too... some good advice here...

Also just to throw a spanner into the works, it depends on the court in your area too, as I have seen people turn up tidy and get treated well with minimal fines because of them tidying up for court, then the next day, they get hammered with big fines because they look like they can afford it. A fickle bunch, them judges/JP's...

[DUCATI*HARD]

Hahahaha......yeah hold it on.....Reckless is a good charge....apart from that I purchased a wrecked bike years ago from a guy who ran, crashed into a van, killed the lady and was in jail. Worth the risk?

WHO SEZ YOUR GONNA GET CAUGHT?,LEAVE HIM IN YOUR WAKE MATE,APART FROM THAT,IVE SOLD A 1100GSXR TO A GUY WHO OWNED IT FOR A WEEK,AN OLD LADY DRIVING A CAR AND TRAILER DONE A U TURN IN FRONT OF HIM,HE HIT HER AND HE DIED ON IMPACT,HE JUST HAD KIDS,AND HIS PARTNER HAD JUST LET HIM GET A BIKE....SO WHO DO YOU FEEL SORRY FOR NOW?THE BIKER OR THE LADY?

[Grahameeboy]

Nope... committing offence using your vehicle = no insurance.

...

Not technically correct as a lot of accidents covered by Insurance have committed an offence.

Failing to Take Reasonable Care is the exclusion and 'Wrecklessness' has to be established which in a 'Runner' situation would be easy to establish.

Of course I am just being picky...your are of course correct Patrick...

[SVboy]

I have been really surprised by some of the moralistic comments so far! That was bad luck Zelto, but you have taken a fair cop on the chin, and havent wined about it. More power to you, and hopefully the consequences wont be dire. For me, speeding seems to be a reality of bike ownership, as long as the risks are held in perspective. I know my big cop will be when and not if[and for the moralists,it could be a big bin also/later/sooner?], but I understand the risks,try to minimise them, and enjoy the freedom. This thread has reinforced my committment to get a good radar setup asap!

[hospitalfood]

well, bummer. I would try to get out of it, radars are not all that accurate in some situations, if you can prove that you may keep your licence. they have been known to clock garage doors doing 20 km/h. I guess take it on the chin a bit, but argue that you travelled 148 ish and the radar was tricked by angle or some crap.
worth a try if you don't piss off the judge. there is info around to back up the argument.

[swbarnett]

but argue that you travelled 148 ish and the radar was tricked by angle or some crap.

You might also argue that no speedo can be more than 95% accurate and you thought you were under 150 (95% of 153 = 145). Could look too argumentative though.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Also add on $130 court costs on top of the heavy fine you are about to receive.

I guess you will get mighty fit with all the walking you are about to do over the next few months.

Loss of license also means no car driving as well.

Depending on how long you loose it for, ONLY after 28 days can you apply for a work license...
Chat to speedie about this, as he knows the ins and outs on this one.
To get it costs heaps of money.

I think that if there is no question of DUI or whatever that you can apply for a work licence immediately (but I dont know for sure). Last one I referred cost the guy ~ $1500 plus GST plus filing fees etc (I dont do that sort of work). That was cheap compared to getting sacked, which was the alternative.

[imdying]

You might also argue that no speedo can be more than 95% accurate and you thought you were under 150 (95% of 153 = 145). Could look too argumentative though.

Yeah, you'd be admitting to the offence as well of course... yes Mr Judge, I wasn't doing 153, only 145

[swbarnett]

Yeah, you'd be admitting to the offence as well of course... yes Mr Judge, I wasn't doing 153, only 145

I don't think denying the offence is an option. Just thought it might help to have the speed reduced.

[Mattyc]

back in the day I got caught doing 168 on my gsxr400rr.. was by an undercover in a monaro of all things, lost license for 28days and that was it... thought the prick was trying to race me or something, didnt flick his lights on until about 160...