Another L plate thread... but different?

[90s]

I plan to get my little guy his first car a few years before he's legal, after spending his own sweat and money getting it real nice I hope he values it more for the work done than a kid who's put a dollar deposit on a WRX.

I hope that you mean your son and this is not some sort of euphanism

Its a good idea - I like it a lot.
I got a 1972 mini 850cc 'special' (in every sense) before I had a car licence, and I rebuilt and painted it, put a fibre-glass clam-shell front on etc etc. Kitted it out for good (ie. not bass-overkilled) sound. Certainly I was not mad for then getting it smashed up. Didn't stop a fair bit of hooning mind!

Let's hope after all that care an unlicenced kid on a bike too big for him doesn;t smash into it

[Pancakes]

I hope that you mean your son and this is not some sort of euphanism

Its a good idea - I like it a lot.
I got a 1972 mini 850cc 'special' (in every sense) before I had a car licence, and I rebuilt and painted it, put a fibre-glass clam-shell front on etc etc. Kitted it out for good (ie. not bass-overkilled) sound. Certainly I was not mad for then getting it smashed up. Didn't stop a fair bit of hooning mind!

Let's hope after all that care an unlicenced kid on a bike too big for him doesn;t smash into it

My "little guy" spends too much time in the "garage" thats how I got an actual little guy to get a car for! Heh heh heh!

[adamh]

Sounds like you have made up your mind and are simply looking for people to agree with you.

Seriously how the fuck will we know if a cop will recognise this? Make up your own mind if you think its worth the risk and do it (which it sounds like you want to do), or not (the more sensible approach).

You throw the dice - you take the chances - just dont bother coming back moaning about how you are a poor little boy with no money and a $800 fine all because of some 'bloody cop'.

geesh.

What do u mean?
I'm not asking people to agree with me I just want peoples opinions on weather they think a cop will recognise a 500cc if it has or has not got an L plate on it.

[mazz1972]

Just how do you think the police would know your age as you ride by? Unless you are proudly displaying your school uniform.... If wearing proper gear no-one could tell your age from a distance.

But in terms of invalidating your insurance (presuming you actually have some) it would be pretty dumb...right?

[caesius]

Just do it. F*ck the Poe-lease. Or more to the point f*ck the LTSA for making stupid dangerous laws like the 70km one.

I fricken almost got blown of the road when I commuted on my 250cc to Welly's every month, I would've killed for a bigger bike. If you're not fined for that you'll just be fined for something else cause you're young and staying within the bounds of the law is too boring. At least make it a fine for an offense that's retarded anyway.

400cc bikes on your restricted . I can legally ride a KR-1S on my learners...nuf said.

[Hawkeye]

You probably could get a way with it but why? Ride your 50, keep the 500 and spend the $400-$1000 potential fine money on getting it ready for when you have your full.

That is the best idea I recon, risk free, takes advantage of the cheap bike you can get now and sheesh, it's just one year. You'll have a sweet ride and have learned heaps from spending time on it.

Totally agree with this sentiment. You have the perfect opportunity. Use the 500 as a project. Strip it down, spend the time to learn about the mechanics of it. Lovingly restore it to it's former glory. Then when you get your full, you can take her out with pride knowing you have achieved something.

;kinda off topic. I plan to get my little guy his first car a few years before he's legal, after spending his own sweat and money getting it real nice I hope he values it more for the work done than a kid who's put a dollar deposit on a WRX.

Amen to that! I have bought the kids push bikes over the years which just get wrecked. It's amazing the mind set change when they use their own money to get a new one. All of a sudden it needs cleaned if it gets wet and dirty! The chain needs oiled more than once in it's life!

My second cage was spotless when I first got it. Not a mark. My 18 year old uses it on a daily basis now and I can see it getting worse before my eyes. Bumpers marked, scratches, inside filled with crap.
Very shortly he is looking to get his own cage. (dad's car is not cool enough!).
It will be interesting to see how he looks after that.

[Gubb]

Yes, bar the Hyoguns, 500's are much larger than your normal 250's (which is the reason I settled on it, being 6'4"), and I seriously doubt, that at 15, you have the skill, co-ordination, and talent to handle a 500cc bike safely.

I know I surely couldn't, but that's why i'm in the process of learning how do do it safely.

Don't be an idiot.

[Pancakes]

In my view the size of the motor isn't an issue. I've gone from small to litre + sports bikes, a V-Max a few times etc and you don't HAVE to gas it. Since I had a knock to the head when I got hit and have been recovering I've been learning from the therapists about brain function etc. The part of your brain that says "DON'T" comes on-line fairly late, sometimes 25 and if you add a dose of 15 yo homones into the mix the rider, not the bike becomes the dangerous part. It's not like young people obey every law if their on a 250 and will sit on redline on anything bigger, the thought is more, someone giving it everything on a 250 isn't going as fast as someone doing the same on a bike twice the size. Thats why I'm more in favour of power limits not size limits (better on a 750 single than an RGV250r eh!) and more than one step.

As we all know driver training combined with a desire to drive correctly not the bike or car is the first and most crucial step to safety.

Just take your time bro,

[FROSTY:Me]

What do u mean?
I'm not asking people to agree with me I just want peoples opinions on weather they think a cop will recognise a 500cc if it has or has not got an L plate on it.

Straight question straight answer---depends on the cop.
2 Towpoo cops I have met ride bikes -One of em a VERY nice prillia --so they will KNOW what you are riding.