Speeding and lack of riding skills

[yod]

sunhunting: huh???????????????

hospitalfood: WTF?

Yod: I thought you were out of bourbon?

finished the beer, on to the shiraz now....cheeky little number

[cowboyz]

Said 1000 times. It is not speed that kills. Outright dangerous riding and very dodgey overtaking puts other riders at risk. Sure if you go to the track then you expect someone to come past on your shoulder. But not everyone on the road is at racepace. This is the whole point. It is a public road and some *choose* to ride at a more conservative pace than others and that should be respected. And by respected I mean waiting until a safe pass can be made and passing with respect to other riders rather than picking off a gap that barely exists just to show how fast you are.

[HungusMaximist]

I'm reminded of an old person, complaining about the speed of drivers today and the recklessness or youth. Regardless of what you ride, the main danger is cars, stationary objects, and congestive heart failure. I'd rather get shaved by a decent rider on a sports bike than by a car or a truck.

The worst part of this debate (aside from losing another young guy on a bike) is that the public and the media will pounce on any excuse to point the finger at fast bikes and the "obvious" carnage that we cause. Nevermind the fact that it's mostly bikers dying from getting hit by cars.

Understand that there's a huge variation of riders out there, just like any interest you get people who are reckless, and those who are risk adverse.

I respect your right to express your anger on the subject, but if you want a safe hobby, suggest you might look at playing golf or knitting. Riding a cruiser for relaxation works well in the unpopulated American mid-west, but we have shit roads and terrible drivers (not helped by the poor handling cruiser itself).

I ride a GSXR1000 like the young guy who lost his life this morning, I ride it with respect and care - but I also know that life is random. My sincerest condolances to his family, loved ones, and friends.

That's a great post as it reminds of an article I read in a psychology mag.

It pretty just summarises how people get more racked up about negative news then positive news and misses the whole wider picture.

In terms of everyday morals it's like just having one cunt to fuck it up for all of us. Hypothetically speaking it's just like a fantastic airline company who has excellent track record of not screwing up. But the thing is nobody cares that much in how great of a 'service' they provide, but when they do screw up like have a crash, everybody start pointing fingers and shit like that.

Look BMZ, I totally agree with you on riders who act like a cunt on the road.
Yea, they should be taken off the road for nearly taking you out but who am I to judge them aye, they could be dicks overall or on the other hand they just did it because they thought it was 'fun' at the time without realizing it was stupid (this happens alot in life, trust me) and probably was a one off thing.

What I am trying to say is bro, just don't too worked up (yea I know it's your life on the balance), but you're not alone of this aye. Alot of riders like us go through this kind of shit and worse everyday. A car ran into me bike roughly a week ago.. then today I was cycling on High Street and this lady starts backing into me because she forgot to look behind her and thought I was a free parking space and I thought I was gonna get crushed literally... until I started smacking my fist on her rear window...

Yup, that's Auckland for ya...

[Headbanger]

Thumbs up to the thread starter.

I agree whole heartedly, I have seen just as much if not more queer stunts pulled by people on bikes then in cars (with adjustment in regards to bike/car ratio)

That's the reason I don't buy into all this "biker brotherhood" melodrama that runs rampant around this board.

Respect the road and everyone on it. The impact will fuck you up, Best you don't take down others with you.

[Toaster]

HOW ABOUT SHOWING me some compassion i was nearly killed by my own kind

Hey fellow 9-rider. Don't be concerned with the stupid dribble posts of those that think with their knobs instead of their brains and wish to justify dangerous riding and speeding as if it is their given right to do so.

If you and Johnnyflash are saying they were dangerous then I believe you.

The both of you are courteous and sensible riders. The riders out there that are keen to show off are welcome to do it well away from those of us that enjoy riding motorbikes and want to live long and healthy lives.

We are here on this website and on these roads together, so lets support each other not kill each other. Riding within inches of other bikers while overtaking dangerously is just plain arrogant stupidity in action and bmz2 is well justified in being upset about it. So lets...

bmz2 I will buy you a beer next ride mate and you can tell me all the details.

[duckonin]

Good call bmz2, pretty much hit the nail on the head we know the feeling you must of had today in the heat of the moment,have had a few close one's ourselves (wife and I) through prats riding their so called superbikes at speed and passing on corners, christ all you hear is speed, speed, speed, bin, bin, bin,then a heap of winening, yet it is said so often ( it's all about the ride not the destination) slow down look around and enjoy the ride..cheers

[Katman]

I have to say it's refreshing to see a thread that fits perfectly with how I've felt about motorcycling for a long time now. Fuck the "brotherhood" - there's a whole lot of motorcyclists out there that need to wake the fuck up to themselves.

[98tls]

Good call bmz2, pretty much hit the nail on the head we know the feeling you must of had today in the heat of the moment,have had a few close one's ourselves (wife and I) through prats riding their so called superbikes at speed and passing on corners, christ all you hear is speed, speed, speed, bin, bin, bin,then a heap of winening, yet it is said so often ( it's all about the ride not the destination) slow down look around and enjoy the ride..cheers

Mate i just pmd the guy in support of his thread but on a bike forum theres no point in posting that shit......in 30 odd years of riding ive seen dumb shit done by dumb fucks on all sorts of bikes,in this case it was sprotbikes and in others its not....simple really,read his thread and put it in the bank..no matter what you ride,all this will do is make grizzly old sprotbike riders (like me) get hot off there high horse,

[James Deuce]

Anyone who is faster than you is a maniac and anyone who is slower is an idiot.

[cowboyz]

woudlnt know - Havent found anyone slower than me yet........

[Katman]

It has nothing to do with "fuck the brotherhood" Although it is about personal responsibility.

Personal responsibility is the antithesis of "the brotherhood".

[98tls]

I can remember sitting in the garage one late summer afternoon having a few ales with fellow riders after a particulary fast romp over the pigroot and back,over the course of said romp there was "moments" had by all and the converastion was centered around said moments,any one of which could have but for the grace of god met with an early introduction to our maker.i was sitting on the garage floor with my back against the car which was getting uncomfortable..for what reason i no not but i thought about how uncomfortable it would be to hit it at speed.The fact that we are on this site would at least hint at an affliction for things with 2 wheels.Lets all enjoy them for a long time.

[bmz2]

shit i throught i was going to hit the black stuff , 1/2 ton of bike and me and 3feet wide of bike, corner and oncoming car and 2 sports bikes overtaking me, not much road left, not feet, inches

[Toaster]

The fact that we are on this site would at least hint at an affliction for things with 2 wheels.Lets all enjoy them for a long time.

Great post, so true.

May there be many many more years of riding for all of us and many more laughs and cold beers as we share our women... er.... stories.

[James Deuce]

I still don't know what this thread is about.