Don't mention Oxygen... the socialists will find a way to tax it.
Forum whore
Don't mention Oxygen... the socialists will find a way to tax it.
David must play fair with the other kids, even the idiots.
Easily wound up!!
Only if you're getting more than your fair share!!Originally Posted by davereid
"There must be a one-to-one correspondence between left and right parentheses, with each left parenthesis to the left of its corresponding right parenthesis."
Forum whore
That is a conclusion you would like to beleive but I for one practice capitalism AND carry people along with me. It is entirely possible to have right wing views and social compassion, but ardent socialists perpetuate the myth that it is impossible.
Bogeyman
No no no, it's caused by an excess of C02. Socialists breath far too much for their own good, (and everyone else’s). Didn’t you spot the causal link between the rise in socialism and the onset of global warming? We need to round 'em all up and plant trees over 'em.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
Boo Hoo!
When I entered this discussion under another thread name a bunch of vile right wing know nothings were spewing propaganda and invectives against socialists and disadvantaged people. These losers however, couldn't even accurately define the most important words they were using so I decided to take them to task.
Now the whining is about me attacking your opinions and misconceptions: tuff fukken luck. The whole glasshouse is laughing at you.
As for the thinly disguised attempt to suggest you are charitable because you "carry people along with you", spare me the bullshit. Employment is an exchange and they carry YOU along just as much. It aint fukken charity; you're in business making a profit and I seriously doubt that social and humanitarian issues are your first concern.
Self delusion is the most pathetic form of the ailment.
As for my opinions, observations and statements on the motivations of right wing conservatives, I stand by them all. By and large they are on the button and that much is evidenced by the glee that Mr Reid showed us here at replacing employees with a machine.
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
well done finn, mindless prattle is about your limit and once more you've given us all a prime example of your inadequacies
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
More accurately: Don't mention oxygen; the arsewipe capitalists will find a way to patent it and sell it to us all
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
Cheers losers; I accept your mindless personal attacks as your admissions of defeat.
sucks being you
Guest
I think KB is well aware of my inadequacies however, this thread is about you and the strange little world you live in.
I find it hilarious that angry socialists are almost always failures in life and feel they have to blame the rest of us for their pitiful existence.
Get over yourself mate. You're nothing special, just an angry, bitter old man.
Forum whore
There was no "glee" about it. Its just simple maths. It's the electronics industry.
Far from being the "hi-tech knowledge wave" that most imagine, it's actually just basic manufacturing, generally low paid assembly work, with a low level of skill.
Like most "high - tech" stuff, what you actually have is a small group of people with the high tech knowledge. They do the design, write the software and move on to the next project.
The manufacturing is low tech. As long as the correct component is soldered in the correct hole, the job is done. The worker needs few skills, will never need to know how the product works, and by and large doesn't care.
Here lies the problem. Those who belong to the skilled group get well paid, have a wide choice of employers, and over a working career design millions of dollars worth of products.
But those who belong to the unskilled group are in trouble. It's easy to claim the capitalist is the source of those problems, it makes a nice flag, and III seems to like waving it.
The reality is, that the unskilled are always at the bottom of the heap in ANY system,and there is actually no way of changing that. (Other than voting them into parliament).
Socialists like to argue that the minimum adult wage is one of the mechanisims to keep the unskilled a bit better off.
They are right ! But it also has the effect of pricing the commodity (the labour of the unskilled) off the market. The effect of this depends on just how well the economy is going. If its dancing along on the back of high commodity prices, then we don't really see a big hit, there are other unskilled jobs to be had, so there are few tears.
When the economy is slow, we see a rise in unemployment. We deal with this by taxes - either directly to pay the dole, or indirectly by using tarrifs to keep the old sock factory in Norsewood or where-ever going.
Long term, both of these methods will fail, as all they do is reduce market size. In other words the sock maker can stay in business, as long as he only wants to sell his socks in NZ. They will be too expensive to sell overseas.
I don't know what the solution is, although I know what won't work.
Sadly this thread has just turned into a slinging off session, as there are some good thinkers here, so I doubt this will be the right place to find those answers.
So do businesses buy machines to replace workers because they hate workers ? Of course not.
But our products will not sell if they are not seen as good value by customers.
This is actually the mechanisim by which we as a country become richer. We make a product. We invest our profits back in our product to make them better quality, higher featured, cheaper or all three. We see it all the time. Todays cars have air-bags, CD players, ABS etc etc and seldom break down. In 1975 a radio and heater were options, and in real terms the car cost much more.
This "deflation" is actually us becoming more wealthy.
Thats why simple tools like taxes, tarrifs, and minimum adult wages, however well intentioned work against us.
Long rant this time !
David must play fair with the other kids, even the idiots.
Deus ex ukulele
Whereas I accept yours as being nothing more than mindless.
"Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]
Forum whore
Yes, ''black and white'' or ''my way is the only way'' rhetoric rather embellished with expletives for crude emphasis. Sad. I still maintain that ideally there can be ''moderated capitalism'' with social conscience. But social conscience that is a hand up rather than the lifestyle vote catching varieties, preying on the truly productive in society with vicious taxes and levies.
If this guy was a true to his beleif socialist he would get rid of his KTM to help the needy. Does KTM stand for ''Kapitalist Teutonic Motorcycle'' or more likely in this case ''Karl Thinkalot Marx'' ?
I can genuinely understand some of the points Idlelefty is getting at and also beleive in equality of opportunity. But also beleive that the environment should reward rather than penalise hardwork, and to also create TRUE productive employment rather than the smoke and mirrors stuff that is happening.
The Ragin Cajun
This thread has a been a great debate on all sides showing their point of view.
But insults are starting to creep in.
Can you please keep these on check please
Thanks
Loud and Uncouth
Never thought I'd said anything insulting - so where did me post go????
Winding up drongos, foil hat wearers and over sensitive KBers for over 14,000 posts...........
" Life is not a rehearsal, it's as happy or miserable as you want to make it"
ArseBiscuit
You were insulting our intelligences bahahahahaha just kidding please don't shoot......Never thought I'd said anything insulting - so where did me post go????
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