Don't be too put off the deathwings....Bass foolishly let me ride his bike for a while returning from Raglan last weekend and I thought them quite acceptable. The rear slid out readily and controllably and when I pushed the front hard enough it too slid in a controllable (generous description of my riding style) manner. I know they are marginal on wet seal but for gravel work I was pleasantly surprised. All testing on Klondyke road which is tight, small gravel and muddy surface and for reference I run TKC80's on my bike.
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