Too many bins

[Sue VFR]

Hi guys

Another really good place to learn riding skills without gravel, drains, trees, fences, cars, poles etc is at track days. You can go in the slow group and practice the lines in and out of corners. It really does translate to better riding on the open road.


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[Sanx]

Yeah I get it, it's my fault that i crashed, i have learnt my mistake no excuses just a rookie mistake. Sigh well night all, i've been getting heaps of peoiple telling me to take courses and shit well im not a crap rider just a new one, think i'll take a break from posting and try bend my bike back into shape lol thanks again to all who helped. Remember everyone was a noob once.

I think you mis-understood me. I wasn't trying to say you're a crap rider or anything like that. I was trying to say what you did on that corner was as a result of not trusting your tyres, yourself or the bike to get you round. Basically, you tried to pull out of the manouver but didn't have enough room to straighten up and brake hard. Take my comments as constructive criticism not a dig, 'kay?

Another really good place to learn riding skills without gravel, drains, trees, fences, cars, poles etc is at track days. You can go in the slow group and practice the lines in and out of corners. It really does translate to better riding on the open road.

Abso-f'ing-lutely. Doing track days has improved my riding immeasurably.

[breakaway]

Crap, i'm not a do it yourself kinda person when it comes to fairings and shit..i can weld but not plastic weld lol Hmm ill try not to think about it tonight...man my leg hurts.

If you think it hurts now wait till tomorrow. I was 400% more sore the next day after my little mishap. I couldn't even sit down without crying from pain

I saw that fkn huge rock in the middle of the road, heaps in advance, enough to avoid it (at legal speeds I might add), so I presumed those behind me would be alright. At this time, it was just Kim behind me. I knew something was up when we had to wait that long at the turn off

Also Drider, ain't nothing wrong with your bike. Fairings have some mild scratches on them. Don't write it off or anything. Hell, I'd clean it up and leave it just as is. Put in a new indicator, and if it's still doing funky shit then post back and someone will sort you out. Those RG150s are real simple bikes. Some wire probably got shaken out of place from the impact. An easy fix.

[ital916]

Hey sanx, sorry dude i din't mean to be snappy and i'm absorbing as much info as i can, just kicking myself at the moment aye. Thanks for the advice i will practise to be better. Hey breakaway yeah that rock was big.

[EJK]

I really want to give Drider another bling but I cant, cause I already gave him one yesturday.

He admits, he tells the truth and he is learning! Now thats the attitude!

Bling for ya eventho I can't give you one lol

[erix]

I must be strange - I enjoy riding on the gravel, and I have to keep kicking myself and reminding myself I'm not on a dirtbike.
Trick is to keep a bit of throttle on and avoid using your front brake at all, unless you're in a straight line.

hmm... it seems I should let go the fear and try to trust my bike... of course more practice as well...

My suspension is soft too but just ride at 30-40km/h you should not lose the rear even though it feels like that.

You should also see Twinkle beating me in the bends....

Your fireblade vs my VTR suspension??? You should try my bike next time to feel the difference....

Yeah, Twinkle is like 10cm behind me when he followed me in the corners, and I feel Im already trying my best. I have to say skills and experience do count regardless what bike you are on. And by following his line in the corners is very comfortable...follow and learn...

Myself and the guy riding behind me both saw these accidents from a different angle. The corner in question is the one immediately before the quarry entrance, heading towards Kaiaua. It's a deceptive corner and the two guys who binned are not the first to be caught out by it.

Thats true! I found a Vcan helmet piece on the scene and it doesn't belong to neither ehab nor Drider87...hmm...

[EJK]

Yeah, Twinkle is like 10cm behind me when he followed me in the corners, and I feel Im already trying my best. I have to say skills and experience do count regardless what bike you are on. And by following his line in the corners is very comfortable...follow and learn...

JAMES!!!! Just tell them the NOS can under your seat! I know your secret now!! (From when he gave me a ride to pick up the pizzas)

[Macstar]

Myself and the guy riding behind me both saw these accidents from a different angle. .

Thanks for stopping and helping out. Whilst one can argue all accidents shouldn't have happened, these ones in particular were avoidable and I'm sure if the riders involved spend a few hours at a course and practice their cornering / braking, the same sort of thing won't happen again.

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Well, we've never seen eye to eye before but I applaud you unreservedly for your thread.

Yeah I had to laugh a little after my recent arguing with you Katman, but like you, I've never wanted to see riders go down, especially in the numbers that I did today. Getting the basics right is imperative for any biker.

Hi guys

Another really good place to learn riding skills without gravel, drains, trees, fences, cars, poles etc is at track days. You can go in the slow group and practice the lines in and out of corners. It really does translate to better riding on the open road.


www.motott.co.nz

Thank you for your suggestion Sue, please keep the options coming people.

Fairings have some mild scratches on them. Don't write it off or anything. Hell, I'd clean it up and leave it just as is. Put in a new indicator, and if it's still doing funky shit then post back and someone will sort you out. Those RG150s are real simple bikes. Some wire probably got shaken out of place from the impact. An easy fix.

Yeah, like I said, if you take it to a bike shop they're going to quote you for genuine parts and may even want to replace some fairings, hence $1000-1500. If you live with the scratched fairings and weld up the cracks then a few hundee will probably cover it. The funky electrical stuff could possibly be the naked indicator wires shorting out after the indicator was ripped off? make sure the negative and positive aren't touching.

Look, thank you people for your comments and for keeping this constructive. A plan is in motion and Squiggles had got the maturity and responsibility to organise these things further (with my help if he needs it):

*Monday & Wed night trainings
*Newbie weekend ride
*RRRS in Jan
*Possibly a track day or something similar.

Thanks.

[Ixion]

Bit of a radical notion t' be sure, but, just coming from left field here, maybe try slowing down?

[erik]

Go to your local library and get "Proficient Motorcycling" by David L. Hough and read.
It's got good diagrams and is really well written. Even if you only read the stuff on cornering and practicing cornering, you'll be better off. It covers a lot of the same theoretical stuff as they do in the RRRS course (or did when I went there a couple years ago).

[klyong82]

Your fireblade vs my VTR suspension??? You should try my bike next time to feel the difference....

Yeah, Twinkle is like 10cm behind me when he followed me in the corners, and I feel Im already trying my best. I have to say skills and experience do count regardless what bike you are on. And by following his line in the corners is very comfortable...follow and learn......

Well my OEM setup for the fireblade was too stiff on the front and too soft on the back so I tweaked it doing all the sag measurement etc. It feels better now.

I'll have a look at your bike next time round. Might just need to tweak the preload and compression a little. Generally 250's are more of a commutering bike so the suspension would be softer.

Twinkle? He is an experience rider. He can manuever his GN well thru corners. As I said he overtook me today on the twisty hills. I got a lot to learn about cornering. In due course you will learn to trust yourself and the VTR better e.g leaning further on bends etc.

Yoou'll get there dont worry and start saving for a Fireblade.........speaking about a Fireblade....I saw SANX's Fireblade today it was hubba babba!! I'll have to wait a while before I can own one unless anyone interested in a ZX7R 2001 in Ninja green (Nish is gonna kill me).

[EJK]

......a while before I can own one unless anyone interested in a ZX7R 2001 in Ninja green (Nish is gonna kill me).

You are already dead anyways

*cough-orange-cough-mirrors*!!

[Macstar]

Bit of a radical notion t' be sure, but, just coming from left field here, maybe try slowing down?

Speed wasn't a factor in the first two bins today that I witnessed, both riders were traveling at respectable speeds (even for learners). But yes, slowing down does help

[Toaster]

Bit of a radical notion t' be sure, but, just coming from left field here, maybe try slowing down?

Speed wasn't a factor in the first two bins today that I witnessed, both riders were traveling at respectable speeds (even for learners). But yes, slowing down does help

You crazy radical's you!

Agreed.... going a tad slower certainly hurts a lot less when you hit something hard.

[twinkle]

Both these accidents sound like classic "Target Fixation". ie. What you look at is what you will hit, where you look is where you will go. Talk to an experienced rider in your area, like Frosty, and you'll learn heaps.

The RG150 was just pulling off to the side of the road i think, just braked a wee bit hard when he was on the gravel, easy done.