VTR1000 vs SV1000 vs XB12R

[Renegade]

DUCATI DUCATI DUCATI DUCATI.. Oh did I mention trying a ducati monster hahahahah

Let us know how your ride goes mate..What kind of monster are you taking for a spin?

duno really, a yellow one i think it is an 800 monster, but they had two red ones there aswell but they all looked a little ruff round the edges for the asking prices

[Renegade]

had a sit on a xb12r today and it felt really good, i wasnt cramped like i thought id be and it was lighter than i thought too, after a little help on some of my concerns with servicing costs etc right now it is on top of my list.

[Winston001]

..........can some tell me what a "red key" is that is advertised with some Ducati's??

From about 2002 Ducati introduced an electronic engine immobiliser which is the Red Key. It is linked to the ignition system but you don't use this key to operate the bike. A chipped black key does the job and if you lose it, you can get another which the Red Key sets.

Never lose the Red Key because it means a new ignition system - although I've seen references to cloning and work-arounds.

[Renegade]

From about 2002 Ducati introduced an electronic engine immobiliser which is the Red Key. It is linked to the ignition system but you don't use this key to operate the bike. A chipped black key does the job and if you lose it, you can get another which the Red Key sets.

Never lose the Red Key because it means a new ignition system - although I've seen references to cloning and work-arounds.

cheers for clearing that up

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

At the end of the day it comes down to personal choice, noboby is going rat you because you bought one of them over the other... Take em all for a test ride, look at all options, why do you want it... touring, bit of fun, longer comunting , all the above... test for comfort, ecomony, reliability, servicing and maintenance, style, name, colour (if you worry about that), avalibility of extras and accessories, spare parts do you buy because of a name or not buy for the same reason blah blah blah... (though I don't care about name, but people on hear do for some odd reason... heck I ride a honda)

So test them all test ride a few others not on your list, they may suprise you, what other say are boring you may like, what others say are ugly you may like and vise versa.

Sounds like you are close to a decision with the Buell, which is cool, see if you can take it out for a day and clock a few k on it see what its like after a bit of trip or the weekend. (some allow this some don't) you might not like as much after, or it could put the final dollars across the table to buy it.

[Hellraiser]

Why go with second best .........

Get an RSV1000 not only does it go like a bat out of hell but also is able to stop better than anything i've ever ridden.

If you want a great VTwin look no further than the Italian brands

[HenryDorsetCase]

looking for some input from the masses,

i now have a full licence after procrasternating far two long (almost 2 yrs) and had enough of the hyo 250.

while i havnt totally ruled out the 600's like the GSXR and especially the 675 ive gone off the er6 that i was keen to get.

im looking at something a little cruisier than the a hypo 600 but not a cruiser and the inside word is the vtwin 1000 has about the same power as a 600 anyway.

i checked out the new SV1000 on the side of the road when i was assisting the rider, it had twin bros pipes on it and it sounded soooo sweeeeet.

i checked out the new VTR1000, i really liked the package as an all round bike and the quallity is undisputed but this is the last year they are going to make them.
a mate is lending me his '01' to try out, ive sat on it and it feels light for a big bike which is nice

then there is the buell, looks fat, allways wanted a harley since i was 10yrs old, so i kinda ticks off that box.
however i worry a little about the servicing and the crazy design with oil and fuel in frames etc

oh yeah, i just love that V-Twin sound, but looking for a well built bike, unlike the hyo

so please, your thoughts people

any other bikes you can think of throw them in here but give me some feed back on them and maybe a pic or 2

cheers

I was offered a brand new Moto Guzzi 750 today for 14 grand. Had a similar riding position to my bike (Hornet 900) shaft drive, nicely put together and modern-ish (fuel injection, good electrics etc). I thought that was good value. It also had brembo brakes.

Triumph Scrambler.

[Renegade]

At the end of the day it comes down to personal choice, noboby is going rat you because you bought one of them over the other... Take em all for a test ride, look at all options, why do you want it... touring, bit of fun, longer comunting , all the above... test for comfort, ecomony, reliability, servicing and maintenance, style, name, colour (if you worry about that), avalibility of extras and accessories, spare parts do you buy because of a name or not buy for the same reason blah blah blah... (though I don't care about name, but people on hear do for some odd reason... heck I ride a honda)

So test them all test ride a few others not on your list, they may suprise you, what other say are boring you may like, what others say are ugly you may like and vise versa.

Sounds like you are close to a decision with the Buell, which is cool, see if you can take it out for a day and clock a few k on it see what its like after a bit of trip or the weekend. (some allow this some don't) you might not like as much after, or it could put the final dollars across the table to buy it.

major concern is still jumping to such a large bike after having the 250 for almost two years, but a 600 or 750 is guna be just as grunty.

plus i want newish '04+' with km's under 10k

reliability is deifnately a factor,will do plenty of commuting, fun and touring, comfort cos it has to fit me nicely i.e knees tuck in and reach, build quality is way up there for me after owning the hyo, Ocean1 cleared up the servicing concerns i had, name not so important nor are accessarys, got to have "the look' to some degree ive always liked to be different when it comes to my choice of wheels, guess thats why ive owned a few rotaries and a firebird, unfortunately im stuck with a twin turbo rs legacy now and all i want is a ute

[Renegade]

Why go with second best .........

Get an RSV1000 not only does it go like a bat out of hell but also is able to stop better than anything i've ever ridden.

If you want a great VTwin look no further than the Italian brands

cant afford, far to much bike for me i reckon

[Renegade]

I was offered a brand new Moto Guzzi 750 today for 14 grand. Had a similar riding position to my bike (Hornet 900) shaft drive, nicely put together and modern-ish (fuel injection, good electrics etc). I thought that was good value. It also had brembo brakes.

Triumph Scrambler.

moto guzzi i can do, spent plenty of time on the back of a 850 lemans as a kid and just loved it better than the vfr 750 he had at the same time, mind you he used the 750 as his drag bike at champion dragway before the cunts turned it into a vine yard, oh and he blew it up.

triump scrambler, cool just to skinny in the seat

[toebug]

Both bikes would look good in MY garage.

Just dont get anything with nana knickers on it, fairings are for girls!

[Ocean1]

major concern is still jumping to such a large bike after having the 250 for almost two years, but a 600 or 750 is guna be just as grunty.

plus i want newish '04+' with km's under 10k

reliability is deifnately a factor,will do plenty of commuting, fun and touring,

Be aware that many big V twins don't like town speeds. They're not smooth at either low revs or low loads. That does apply to my XB12, although they work better around town without the race kit, and on the other hand chain snatch isn't an issue.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Be aware that many big V twins don't like town speeds. They're not smooth at either low revs or low loads. That does apply to my XB12, although they work better around town without the race kit, and on the other hand chain snatch isn't an issue.

the VTR isn't the best around town either, the other thing I find with the VTR is the 1st & 2nd gear is very clunky... she doesn't like going below 2500 rpm. However on the open highway different story... cruises and purs along at 120 fully loaded at 4000rpm, and you can hear the that big Vtwin just ticking over, then you open the throttle and... oh thats another thread

[Renegade]

Be aware that many big V twins don't like town speeds. They're not smooth at either low revs or low loads. That does apply to my XB12, although they work better around town without the race kit, and on the other hand chain snatch isn't an issue.

currently its town commuting daily, as of next year it will be a 180km commute once a week and maybe a couple of short runs during the weekso not to worried, should be able to cope with any town stuff.

i have heard that about the buell race kits but can you have the sound without the other fruit?? in fact what is in the race kit, Ocean1?? i thought maybe the ecu, pipe and airbox??

an xb9r maybe a consideration, just a few less cubes

what exactly is this chain snatch i hear about?, ive propably felt it just havnt got a label for it.

thats the thing with bikes, cars, guns and girls, ya cant have one that will do every job perfectly, you just have to have many, or find a compromise.

with any bike there will always be something wether its to wristy or to crampt or dosent like low revs around town or or or the list goes on and on.

[Kelem]

My monster is not the best around town, keeping it in good tune and changing the sprockets to suite make things much nicer, but its not a commuter so.. in saying that its alot of fun to ride, there are alot on the market now and the prices seem to reflect that more than when i was looking - ain't that always the way.