Proposed tax cuts

[Robert Taylor]

Mr Cullen (the right horrible) announced in a budget a year or so ago that the tax rates will become inflation adjusted after 2008 or 09 (can't remember which).

I find it amusing how a tax rise or new tax can be added in a month or two but a reduction takes a couple of years. But then you need to save up the taxes paid in between so you can bribe the voters for your next election.

Easy to find $190,000,000 for a bloody rugby game apparently.

And impossible to find any money for one of the core neccessities, an air strike defence wing.

[James Deuce]

Working for Families is a crock of shit.

Do some overtime and watch them adjust your "benefit" downwards the next pay. Do some more and look forward to the letter with your projected tax bill in April carefully enumerated in bold type.

Sometimes, when it's really busy at work I end up getting phone calls from IRD, informing me that I will be earning $130,000 this financial year, on the basis of one single fortnight's pay, and I won't be getting any more Working for Families benefit and they will be contacting my Employer to pay back a proportion of what I have received thus far this year. Watch them also take both disabled children's benefits off you, even though that isn't means tested and is granted irrespective of income.

Then ring up to try and get the Disabled Children's allowance reinstated and get told that they've made tremendous strides in medical science and a cure for Down Syndrome is just around the corner. Listen to the under-educated idiot splutter indignantly when you ask them how many chromosomes they have and just what do them there chromosomes do?

I'm convinced the current Government is made up of people who've never had a real job in their lives. They've either gone from School to University to Politics, or through the teaching profession and into politics, or through those other honourable NZ professions that grew out of the reorganisation of the Welfare State in the 70s; the DPB or the Dole - then into politics. They've then gone and staffed their bureaucracies with the carefully crafted end result of the NZ education system and DPB/Dole "University of Life" system; ignorant self-involved geniuses.

[Coyote]

If you want to succeed in business, you're going to have to stop being a pussy.

What, in your mind anyway, do I have to do in order to not be a pussy?

[homer]

Well I started out poor, bettered myself and now have a job with a decent level of responsibility and accountability, yet I don't believe I am better off than someone earning significantly less.

People on high incomes receive pay increases based on a %, which equates to a shitload more money than the % of a low wage.

The 'rich' get richer disproportionally by the %, the Govt dishes handouts to the 'poor', and the 'middle class' wear the brunt. IMHO.

Poos - how would a flat tax rate work ? Other than the above idea of GST increase, which effectively taxes people who can afford to buy more stuff anyway.

Oh all about the % thing

+1 your so damn right
a percent of fuck all is still fuck all

Totally agree

[homer]

Oh all about the % thing

+1 your so damn right
a percent of fuck all is still fuck all

Totally agree

I love the debate between the ones that hold us back and the ones that want to get a head

Im totally guessing that the ones that want to get ahead still live week to week as most of us others
and yet they aways are trying to tell us what we should do
I ll do what the fuck i want
and if the funds dont allow at the time ....if i want ill borrow it ,thats my choice

If your wondering i do earn enough ,but it goes no where
thats my choice

and im guessing these people that think the poorer are holding us back are getting at least 4 weeks holiday a year as weel while the rest of us have now got there , just .

Im refering to a post earlier if anyone cares you ll work it out .
and i say to all that think like it ...fuck off
wealth is not how much you earn ....
As an example i got over 30 k last year , i dont know where it went
but im content
and thats what wealth is ...being content .and it changes so im content now in 6 months i may not be .

[Indiana_Jones]

Clark and Cullen can take their tax cut and shove it up their arrogant arses

-Indy

[James Deuce]

Who the hell gets holidays Homer?

[James Deuce]

Clark and Cullen can take their tax cut and shove it up their arrogant arses

-Indy

+1. It barely buys 6 litres of milk, FFS.

[homer]

Who the hell gets holidays Homer?

well you rentitled to them its not up to me to dish them out

[cowpoos]

What, in your mind anyway, do I have to do in order to not be a pussy?

I think he was meaning in the way you were on the back foot in retort to his post...you didn't back your self...because you didn't appear to believe in yourself and what you believed...whether it be true or not...

for the record...finn is a pussy on a motorbike lmfao!!!

[The Stranger:Me]

Think youd be better to read what i posted
Far more simple

It may (but I doubt it) be far more simple, but I didn't see you mention GST.
GST has the benefit of catching those that otherwise avoid tax.

A couple of guys I knew were painters - I always wondered how they got sooo many toys, it turned out they never paid any tax. GST collects tax on their money when they buy their toys.

[BAD DAD]

I just can't imagine this govt actually agreeing to true tax cuts for anyone because they seem to be dedicated to the idea of: a) a large beauracracy and; b) redistribution of wealth through taxation. My frustration with these issues is really that we don't have a viable alternative to replace them with because the other team seems to have nothing other on offer than to sell-off assets to foreigners and to slash essential services without necessarily rendering any true benefit to the tax payers. Whatever short term gain, I'll still be payin'.

[cowpoos]

It may (but I doubt it) be far more simple, but I didn't see you mention GST.
GST has the benefit of catching those that otherwise avoid tax.

A couple of guys I knew were painters - I always wondered how they got sooo many toys, it turned out they never paid any tax. GST collects tax on their money when they buy their toys.

ummm...not nessicarily...I personally would welcome a 100% gst tax system if it could work...from the perspective of being in business...I would pay nxt to no tax on anything!! business's get GST refunded from purchases'

[homer]

It may (but I doubt it) be far more simple, but I didn't see you mention GST.
GST has the benefit of catching those that otherwise avoid tax.

A couple of guys I knew were painters - I always wondered how they got sooo many toys, it turned out they never paid any tax. GST collects tax on their money when they buy their toys.

Now you see the sence in "your own business"
theres a heap of perks
only reason i mentioned the gst is this ....

The more you spend the more the inflation goes up , right
so interest rates rise

If you pay more in the gst then its in your court ,you spend you pay

also then people should thnk ....i wont buy that at the moment
which is what the govt wants isnt it
they tell me that for about 2 years now
The whole point is that a tax cut does jack
and you need to see the money in the bank . Not just a few dollars
but like about 50 a week then youd be getting something

We dont even get a tax write off any more a a worker
we should be all able to claim for work clothes and the expenises associated with work

makes me want to get a small bus going every day
or go to aussie

[James Deuce]

well you rentitled to them its not up to me to dish them out

Ah! Homer is Management material. Or a Union rep.