Cop U-turn accident victim on Campbell tonight (19 December)

[PuppetMaster]

Who cares who hes talking about.


That cop in the interview got off very lightly. WTF, not in a pursuit ?
So, basically the copper wasnt in a pursuit, so he deliberately turned in front of the 2 bikes then ?

[imdying]

They need more hot woman coppers is what I took from that.

[yungatart]

Seems to me it would be a simple exercise to set up a car parked in exactly the spot the police car was and see whether a motorcycle travelling at 90-95kph would be able to stop once the car became visible. My guess would be that it could.

In the interests of road safety and your campaign, are you going to volunteer to do this?

[MSTRS:Me]

In the interests of road safety and your campaign, are you going to volunteer to do this?

"We' would have to set this up in such a way that KM would have no idea that it was...
It's impossible to duplicate ALL the conditions/factors of the incident, so results will be just as much bullshit as the original suggestion.

[vifferman]

most sensible comment i have heard yet.

That's terrible!
This forum is no place for sensible comments! If you can't post turgid, rambling, bullshit-filled prose full of assumptions, crazy ideas, exaggerations, outright lies, slander, character arse-assinations, assininity, cobblers, puerility, childish ideas, etc etc., then you should be BANNED.


Or something.

[Biggles08]

Would only work if the "test rider" didn't know that there would be a gimp parked in the middle of the road just around the corner.
Would be a good test that most of us should trial though.

I failed the test recently

[DMNTD:Me]

I failed the test recently

You're shitting me!

[onearmedbandit]

I think what katman is trying to say is that is was the naughty motorcyclists fault. If they had been paying more attention to what they were doing then they wouldn't of ruined that poor cop's day, and he could of pursued that nasty speeding motorcyclist who was endagering other peoples lives recklessly. I get you katman.

[Biggles08]

You're shitting me!

Yep...actually I am...with bags of it!

[Winston001]

Thanks for the link Conquiztador, it looked like a balanced story.

So far as the arguments over "pursuit" go, I'd guess that the Police Manual has a specific definition where the action of following a motorist becomes a pursuit when the motorist fails to stop on command. That makes sense in law enforcement terms.

From a common-sense perspective I agree with Conquiztador that it is silly for the police to deny the officer was pursuing the other biker.

[jim.cox]

From a common-sense perspective I agree with Conquiztador that it is silly for the police to deny the officer was pursuing the other biker.

But they will protect their own above everything else

so its going to be deny deny deny right down the line

did you really expect anything else?

[scumdog]

But they will protect their own above everything else

so its going to be deny deny deny right down the line

did you really expect anything else?

I guess they got that idea off the General Public eh?

[yungatart]

But they will protect their own above everything else

so its going to be deny deny deny right down the line

did you really expect anything else?

Well, I would expect my boss to stand up for me, whether or not the action I had done or allegedly done was right or wrong.

[Ixion]

True. But in your case, your boss would no doubt be standing up for you in an investigation by some third party. In this case the cops are standing up for, and defending , their own. One can understand that. But, it is those same cops who are investigating the crash, and will assign culpability for it. There is no independent investigation. The police are judge and jury in their own case. And ther bikers have no-one at all to speak up for them. They will be hung out to dry by the investigators, who are busy defending their own.

[scumdog]

True. But in your case, your boss would no doubt be standing up for you in an investigation by some third party. In this case the cops are standing up for, and defending , their own. One can understand that. But, it is those same cops who are investigating the crash, and will assign culpability for it. There is no independent investigation. The police are judge and jury in their own case. And ther bikers have no-one at all to speak up for them. They will be hung out to dry by the investigators, who are busy defending their own.

So, judging by the above post the cop will dust his hands off, shrug his shoulders and jump into another (unbent) car and carry on his merry way without hinderance or penalty?

Shee-it, I want to be a cop if that's the case!!