Satellite Speed Control

[Unit:Me]

Personally, I find that if I travel AT the limit, I get tailgated by Richard Cranium and his mates...

Yes it just feels wrong when Im trundling along doing the legal limit and cars are overtaking me, when with one twist of the throttle I can be at warp speed. Ultimately they should simply bring out vehicles that can do no more than the legal speed limit. And better still, build highways and freeways specifically designated to people who what to speed.

Tin Hat Order Of course being a Harley rider I want mine in chrome please but without the tassles......

Oh is tin not good enough for you?

[swbarnett]

Then the serial speed offenders should be the only ones 'concerned' about that. If you don't habitually speed at loss of licence figures then I doubt there'd be any need to be bothered by this.

When can I come around and set up a camera in your bedroom?

After all, you haven't got anything to hide have you?

Continuous surveillance of the entire population is just contrary to our basic human rights.

[EnzoYug]

GPS should be used to stop cars from crossing the centre line/changing lanes when another car is in that lane. steering control systems aren't impossible.

Then they could change the open-road limit to 300km/ph.

Everybody wins.

[bell]

When can I come around and set up a camera in your bedroom?

After all, you haven't got anything to hide have you?

Continuous surveillance of the entire population is just contrary to our basic human rights.

Pardon? Your analogy is somewhat ludicrous as the two 'actions' - a device on serial speeding offender and camera in my bedroom - are at quite different points on the spectrum.

Notwithstanding the fact that one might actually serve a valid purpose.

Go on, rebut that. I know you want to.

[davereid]

swbarnetts post was about the electronic observation of all we do, by government and government agencies.

Of course where you go, when you travel, and fast you go is merely a small part of that.

There will be some who say its great.

The government know every thing about you. What you watch on the telly and the internet. How much tobacco you buy, and how many rollie papers.

We can end crime. !

Letter box kicked over in the street ? check the GPS and facial recognition cameras to see who did it.

But, others prefer freedom.

Amongst other things, that means the right to privacy.

To have a door on my toilet if I wish, even though everyone knows what the toilet is for.

[Ixion]

Bear in mind, of course, that it is not just about speed control.
Consider. The government have a real time ability to know where you are and where you are going. And to stop you . Speed control obviously extends to zero speed.

So, the inevitable corollary is that such a device will extend to only being permitted to make government approved journies. Apply three weeks in advance , in triplicate, giving reasons why your journey is necessary.

[Dargor]

Bear in mind, of course, that it is not just about speed control.
Consider. The government have a real time ability to know where you are and where you are going. And to stop you . Speed control obviously extends to zero speed.

Computers make really shit cops, save the money used in developing this technology and get more cops. Same goes things like the CCTV cameras like in London. Sure it may help now and then but privacy vs one off situations when this tech is actually needed.

Actually thinking on that. If cops cant chase people properly because of high speed chase speed limits then they need this all the time, but there are better solution's.

[Dargor]

swbarnetts post was about the electronic observation of all we do, by government and government agencies.

Of course where you go, when you travel, and fast you go is merely a small part of that.

That doesnt mean those stats would be used properly.
They just wouldn't tell us, just like the number of speeding tickets per accident.

Now consider this:
Maybe 120 km/h by all argument and testing is just as "safe" as 100. But because subconsciously people know this they speed to 120. So evil government set speed limit to 100, and ticket everyone at 120.

[cold comfort]

sensors on road with GPS activated in car alarm when on the wrong side of road-now THERE would be a contribution to road safety

[davereid]

sensors on road with GPS activated in car alarm when on the wrong side of road-now THERE would be a contribution to road safety

I read in the paper that long distance truck drivers in Europe have been caught watching dvds while they drive - relying on the "rumble strips" to alaert them if they drift out of the correct lane.

[swbarnett]

Pardon? Your analogy is somewhat ludicrous as the two 'actions' - a device on serial speeding offender and camera in my bedroom - are at quite different points on the spectrum.

Yes, they are at different ends of the spectrum but if you allow one, the other is sure to follow.

Notwithstanding the fact that one might actually serve a valid purpose.

In other words: "The end justifies the means". Not withstanding that I don't think it would reduce the road toll anyway.

Go on, rebut that. I know you want to.

How could you tell?

Your original post led me to believe that you were one of the "If you've got nothing to hide, why are you worried?" fraternity. Any kind of automated control or monitoring is of dubious benefit in the long term. It only paves the way for the removal of more and more freedom until one day we wake up and we don't have any at all.

[swbarnett]

I read in the paper that long distance truck drivers in Europe have been caught watching dvds while they drive - relying on the "rumble strips" to alaert them if they drift out of the correct lane.

Yet another example of the human need for a certain level of risk. Airbags are the same. Anecdotal evidence has suggested that the slow road users (cyclists, pedestrians) are safer when being passed by a car that is not equipped with them as the driver is more concerned with the concenquences of a collision.

[BigRod]

Yet another example of the human need for a certain level of risk. Airbags are the same. Anecdotal evidence has suggested that the slow road users (cyclists, pedestrians) are safer when being passed by a car that is not equipped with them as the driver is more concerned with the concenquences of a collision.

Kinda makes me think of a *really good* road safety device - a spike fitted to the steering wheel. All of a sudden drivers would leave greater following distance (no tailgating) and pay more attention to progressive braking rather than digging the picks in. It would certainly focus attention on driving more safely!

Rod

[candor]

Think Dave Reid is right - its a done deal. And they're not saying Automatic number plate recognition Systems are being looked at, such as already operate on the UK motorways. This will severely cramp some "bad boys" style as according to a recent NZ Police study "criminals travel in cars"

[Ixion]

A small item in the Letter to the Editor page of Tuesday's Herald , from Harry Duynhoven says

"Your correspondant Tony Baylis says the Government was considering using spy-in-the-sky technology to curb speedsters. No such proposal has come across my desk, nor has the Government considered one"