Kevmo and Dan 12 o clock vid!

[Kevmo7]

i was actally thinkin of gettin something like that, looks pretty mean

[dipshit]

Weeelll this stuff does help in everyday riding, it teaches a level of control the average rider will never have.

So you lot do reckon you are shit hot and better than everyone else.

The body remembers this stuff and it comes out in those 'oh shit' situations when the survival instinct takes over.

Yet I have never seen or heard of anybody pulling a wheelie or a stoppie to get out of a tricky situation..??

As for stunting being new....I don't think so. I've personally been doing wheelies and shit on the road since the early 80's, and if ya search the net you'll sure as shit find pics from the 70's and even earlier. It's far from new.

"In the '90s some riders made performing stunts the primary focus of their riding. A wheelie or other stunt was not just something to do while riding, it became the main goal in riding."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stunters

And there's no real difference to crashing on a quiet street to crashing at a track, it still goes down as a bike crash in the stats.

Crashes at race tracks do not go down in road crash statistics. ACC sports injury claims, yes. Road statistics, no.

Y'know, I really don't get it, motorcycles are all about rebellion, not fitting in, they always have been,

And this is the very bullshit attitude that needs to change.

[cowboyz]

To quote from your own reference.

"Many motorcyclists simply equate stunters with squids, and disregard them. However, stunters are not merely squids who have some talent. The squid is typically ignorant, inexperienced, and most likely will only ride a motorcycle for a short period before giving up the sport out of fear, boredom or financial pressure.

Stunters are dedicated to their sport. They practice, they discuss the sport with other stunters, they modify their motorcycles specifically for stunting. Some even turn stunting into their profession.

It might be argued that stunters are born of squids, but that same argument can be made of many motorcycle subcultures.
"

I was going to explain the relevance of the above quote with your obsession for crowsing stunting forums with suggestions on how evil stunting is but I really cant be arsed. Somehow I think that you will never get it.

BTW. Heard an add on the radio today that said riding gat 100km/hr is like beekeeping with all the safety gear. The advert progressed with the idea that every km over that is like taking a piece of safety gear off till it got to 107km/hr is like beekeeping with no protective gear on. Just wondering if you wrote the advert cause I (for one) would take my chances riding at 107km/hr than extracting honey from a hive with no protective gear on.

[cowboyz]

Oh, and I just realised how apt your name is. Yes I know I am slow on the uptake......

[nodrog:Me]

Yet I have never seen or heard of anybody pulling a wheelie or a stoppie to get out of a tricky situation..??

well here you go then, years ago a freight truck pulled straight out from behind a building infront of me in the middle of town, i grabbed a handful of front brake and managed to stop, the arse of the bike didnt and proceeded to smack me headfirst into the ground, now if stoppies had been invented back then and i had been praticing them, maybe that would have helped me control the situation better?

now while stunting on public property may not be the best idea in the world, at least these guys have made an effort to take it to a relatively quiet place, and like they have said they would do it privatly if it was available to them.

i have been guilty of far worse and more public displays when i was these guys age, the only difference is it wasnt posted on the internet for all to judge.

give the guys a break, im sure you were young once?

[Kevmo7]

"Rebadged as Streetbike Freestyle, the sport is becoming recognized by more mainstream venues"

"Stunters are dedicated to their sport. They practice, they discuss the sport with other stunters, they modify their motorcycles specifically for stunting. Some even turn stunting into their profession"

yeah and the sport is growing faster than ever, so why are you hasselin us, trying to make us suddenly stop, as you just read, were dedicated, were not just gonna give up cause you cant handle it that we might make you look like a bad boy for riding around in your big safe jacket on you brand new bike which never exceeds the speed limit

[dipshit]

well here you go then, years ago a freight truck pulled straight out from behind a building infront of me in the middle of town, i grabbed a handful of front brake and managed to stop, the arse of the bike didnt and proceeded to smack me headfirst into the ground, now if stoppies had been invented back then and i had been praticing them, maybe that would have helped me control the situation better?

Correct use of the brakes and bike setup so the arse end doesn't get too light during rapid deceleration so you can stop faster and have better control.

Setting the rear static sag is key to how light or tailey the rear end gets under breaks. Using both front and rear breaks together can stabilise the bike more and stop you even faster than a sudden big handful of front break.

There should be no reason to be slamming your face on the road under breaks.

[Drew]

So you lot do reckon you are shit hot and better than everyone else.

Yep, heaps better.




[/quote=dipshit;]Yet I have never seen or heard of anybody pulling a wheelie or a stoppie to get out of a tricky situation..?? [/quote]


The throttle control, brake feel, and familiarity with the bike moving are the skills that help under emergency situations.

But if you've made up your mind, I'm sure you're as two faced and closed minded as half the population of this site, and I'm just wasting time with this post.

ps, the first bit was a joke, dont reply to this if ya dont have a decent argument to make.

[Patch]

This dunedinite's name says it all - can't expect anything less really, what kind of retard chooses a name like that.


and Drew is right - waste of time and yes, we can ride better than you

[dipshit]

The throttle control, brake feel, and familiarity with the bike moving are the skills that help under emergency situations.

I agree. Not panicking or tensing up, but instinctively reacting in the correct way is a benefit from being familiar with the bike closer to the edge.

Trying to scrub some extra speed off if coming to hot into a corner, or dealing with a slide if hitting some unexpected gravel mid corner, or having to scrub off lots of speed very quickly are reactions a rider should be comfortable enough with to perform instinctively without too much panic.

This comes with experience, accelerated with track time, or even dirt riding.

To imply that only people that stunt have these skills is bullshit.

In fact I fail to see how this ( http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=cjoec911 ) kind of suff actually gives you worthwhile skills that are beneficial for situations in street riding anyways. Track time where you can push your limits beyond what you would normally do on the streets or dirt bike riding seem far more relevant to giving you the necessary skills.

If anything the kids that are into stunting probably have overconfidence as they think they are the best riders ever to walk the face of the earth and are nine feet tall and bullet proof. Such an attitude in motorcycling can be very dangerous.

[dipshit]

and yes, we can ride better than you

Define "better" ?

[Kevmo7]

I agree. Not panicking or tensing up, but instinctively reacting in the correct way is a benefit from being familiar with the bike closer to the edge.

Trying to scrub some extra speed off if coming to hot into a corner, or dealing with a slide if hitting some unexpected gravel mid corner, or having to scrub off lots of speed very quickly are reactions a rider should be comfortable enough with to perform instinctively without too much panic.

This comes with experience, accelerated with track time, or even dirt riding.

To imply that only people that stunt have these skills is bullshit.

In fact I fail to see how this ( http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=cjoec911 ) kind of suff actually gives you worthwhile skills that are beneficial for situations in street riding anyways. Track time where you can push your limits beyond what you would normally do on the streets or dirt bike riding seem far more relevant to giving you the necessary skills.

If anything the kids that are into stunting probably have over conference as they think they are the best riders ever to walk the face of the earth and are nine feet tall and bullet proof. Such an attitude in motorcycling can be very dangerous.

Let me tell you something, one day when i was coming home from work it was raining really hard, i had a bald rear tyre from doing heaps of burnouts the night before and was heading down to cycletreads to get another tyre for FREE.

so anyways i came into a corner and powered out just a little more than usual, and the rear end came flying out, now normal squid like you would panic and shut the throttle sharp and get thrown over the handle bars, but because i was used to having the rear sideways and without traction from the night before doing fishtail burnouts and everything, i just kept the power on, backin off just a tad and kept the bike sideways without crashin, i was quite proud of myself afterwards and so was the courier driving coming the other way

[Morcs]

I did two 12'o clocks today. Both on 50k roads.

Oh the horror we are all going to die.

[Drew]

To imply that only people that stunt have these skills is bullshit.

Define "better" ?

Read my post again you friggin muppet! I said I was joking about being a better rider, and never implied anything at all. I said that stunting can teach riders better control, not better than racers, well experienced riders, or anyone else, but better than we had before.

Piss off and trawl some place else ya bell end.

[DEATH_INC.]

I agree. Not panicking or tensing up, but instinctively reacting in the correct way is a benefit from being familiar with the bike closer to the edge.

Trying to scrub some extra speed off if coming to hot into a corner, or dealing with a slide if hitting some unexpected gravel mid corner, or having to scrub off lots of speed very quickly are reactions a rider should be comfortable enough with to perform instinctively without too much panic.

This comes with experience, accelerated with track time, or even dirt riding.

To imply that only people that stunt have these skills is bullshit.

In fact I fail to see how this ( http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=cjoec911 ) kind of suff actually gives you worthwhile skills that are beneficial for situations in street riding anyways. Track time where you can push your limits beyond what you would normally do on the streets or dirt bike riding seem far more relevant to giving you the necessary skills.

If anything the kids that are into stunting probably have over conference as they think they are the best riders ever to walk the face of the earth and are nine feet tall and bullet proof. Such an attitude in motorcycling can be very dangerous.

You sir, are a fuckin idiot. What do you think stunting is? Is it not pushing the boundaries of balance, braking, traction and throttle control? I've learnt more road useful skills from clowning around than I've ever learnt on the track. Probably the only thing that taught me more was MX. Strangely enough though a lot of my MX training was pretty much stunting, stoppies, wheelies, sliding the front end, doing tricks off jumps etc. teaches you a lot about what the bike can and can't do.
And yeh, I'll take you on any day, name it. I'll ride through rush hour traffic with ya till one of us gets taken out, do obstacle courses, defensive driving courses....whatever you want.