Countersteering

**discotex** · 20th January 2008, 11:08

Originally Posted by jrandom

Cool paper! Makes good intuitive sense.

So does that mean the bet is off?

**90s** · 21st January 2008, 12:28

Originally Posted by MacD

Excellent cartoon, I was wondering if anybody was going to question the centrifugal force aspect!?

Probably not, because there is no such thing as centrifugal force - just acceleration. The only thing that would stop Bond accelerating in a straight line is that he is being prevented.
The evil-if-badly-drawn villian is the zealot, making unecessary complications to an elegant system in order to preserve the illusion. Can we short-hand the force of acceleration under certain conditions as centrifugal? Why not? Is it a useful fiction? Sure. Is it correct? No, but not much is when we really examine it.

Probably the most boring post I've ever written - tough competition too.

**scrivy** · 22nd January 2008, 16:10

Originally Posted by Kickaha

to put it very very basically he goes left on lefts, right on rights

Unless you're a swinger on an LCR at Wanganui.......

**Jorja** · 22nd January 2008, 16:14

Ahh so thats what he had me practicing. Yay I can countersteer.

**Kickaha** · 22nd January 2008, 19:40

Originally Posted by scrivy

Unless you're a swinger on an LCR at Wanganui.......

In that case I think you fall on your arse

**McDuck** · 22nd January 2008, 21:53

Bumping for a thread in the new bikers....

**McDuck** · 22nd January 2008, 21:55

Link link link

**McDuck** · 22nd January 2008, 21:55

ooops http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...29#post1392629

**scrivy** · 23rd January 2008, 07:27

Originally Posted by Kickaha

In that case I think you fall on your arse

What about the esses at Wangy Kick??? How many swingers on long bikes didn't swing out for the left??? Lazy buggars!!!!

**Hitcher** · 23rd January 2008, 07:41

Originally Posted by Mcduck5n

Bumping for a thread in the new bikers...

Well done. Some others would have started a new one...

**GSVR** · 23rd January 2008, 10:30

Maybe someone could quote the parts of this thread I should be reading as I've gone over it twice and really haven't found any advice good bad or indifferent.

It has rased a question for me. Why do you have to be travelling over a certain speed before countersteering comes into effect? Would it not have more to do with how tight a radius the turn your about to turn?
Signed Slow Learner.

My advice is dont ride to close to the edge or you wont be able to turn in because countersteering involves turning in the opposie direction to the corner and if theres no road left on the edge you'll go over the edge (Einsteins Theory of relativity to edges).

**jrandom** · 23rd January 2008, 10:31

Originally Posted by Garry H

Why do you have to be travelling over a certain speed before countersteering comes into effect?

Gah!

Thud.

**Ixion** · 23rd January 2008, 10:49

I'm so glad that I learned to ride before counter steering was invented. And as all my bikes are old (or chook chasers) they don't have counter steering fitted, so I don't have to worry about it. Much simpler.