Deck chairs on the Titanic

[James Deuce]

Who got rich out of Y2K

nothing was going to happen ,but we were led to believe it

Total rubbish.

Barclays lost more than 2 billion pounds because they didn't upgrade their credit card date system to 4 digits for the year field. It took them two days to turn their Credit Card system off and people all over Europe got free Christmas presents and New Year's alcohol.

People started working on that issue in the late '80s. Just because you didn't see much happen doesn't mean nothing happened. Millions of people around the world did their normal jobs plus whatever they could do to stop you losing all your assets, electricity, mobility, and plain old freedom to a date field glitch.

It's an utter insult to a big chunk of society to suggest that we lied , cheated and stole and did no work because there was no issue. There was. And we who worked on it did a FUCKING GOOD job avoiding issues.

[Steam]

Who got rich out of Y2K

nothing was going to happen ,but we were led to believe it

A whole lot of I.T. types who are on KB just cringed as you perpetuated that myth.
Y2K WAS a BIG problem. We got through it because millions of IT geeks around the world worked damn hard for years to fix it.

EDIT: Oh, Jim2 has already answered that one. He's the biggest IT geek on KB.

Oil companys also make us believe that oils running out
is it ?.....like when
its bs as well, pushes the price up cause its a pressure thing

Just to clarify, you don't believe the oil is running out?

Okay, let me test you:
Were the moon landings faked?
Did George Bush order the Sept 11 attacks?
Do aliens really visit earth, and is the government covering it up?


"Hello? Calling Mr Craaaazy"

[Boob Johnson]

I heard their fridges were quite reliable. Heard about the woman who opens her fridge and there's this little bird in it? She asks what it's doing in there and the bird replies, "Is this a Westinghouse?" "Yes it is," she says. "Well, then", says the little bird, "I's westing!"

rofl nice one

Save the planet, get rid of the humans. Pretty simple really. So who's first?

It could easily be a whole new thread...

I wonder how long until the critical mass of the (predominantly western) population start to view death in a different way. We are simply out growing this planet at an alarming rate & our current lifestyles aren't sustainable. So the population needs a "cull" like many other animals that inhabit the earth.

So yeah, who's first? Me or you?


Wealthy, would be the one word that would sum up (no pun intended) who's first. Would make for interesting future social policy.

[homer]

[QUOTE=Steam;1456958]A whole lot of I.T. types who are on KB just cringed as you perpetuated that myth.
Y2K WAS a BIG problem. We got through it because millions of IT geeks around the world worked damn hard for years to fix it.

EDIT: Oh, Jim2 has already answered that one. He's the biggest IT geek on KB.


Just to clarify, you don't believe the oil is running out?
no not running out at all ,theres millions of litres of it ,its constantly being created,but if you know that and its easy to get petrol would be cheap .Wouldnt it
After all what about everything made of plastic ,Its all petrolleum ,has the price of goods made of plastic gone up in relation to costs .
most of it is cheaper than ever .

Okay, let me test you:
Did man land on the moon?
answer no we all know its been a fake landing
Did George Bush order the Sept 11 attacks?
May as well have flown the planes him self ,Havnt you watched farenheight 911
Do aliens really visit earth, and is the government covering it up?
Yep they exist and its been covered up for decades

[Steam]

How...

how?

How do you remember to breathe?

ye gods!

[homer]

Just happens

come on who the fuck had any problem them selves with anything over Y2K
and what fucken credit card had 3 numbers and why would that worry anything ,its not the number that matters its the year

if a number gets to 999 it naturaly clocks back to 001

[James Deuce]

Just happens

come on who the fuck had any problem them selves with anything over Y2K
and what fucken credit card had 3 numbers and why would that worry anything ,its not the number that matters its the year

if a number gets to 999 it naturaly clocks back to 001

Did you read my post or are you just taking the piss. You didn't have problems because people worked hard to make sure you didn't, and they started a decade before you were aware there was a problem.

The Credit Card year field was two figures and STILL shows as two figures on your card. The transactions used to be processed using 2 figures for the year field. It was changed to four.

Incidentally, the last Y2k related date that was a potential problem happened last Friday. The year 2000 wasn't supposed to be a Leap Year.

[Ocean1]

No it isn't. 6 billion people could live in Texas and still have enough room for a 1.5 acre section. Enough for a cow, some chickens and a big veggie garden. The acquisition of valueless, virtual capital by the few exploiting the many is fucking the planet.

Yup, not too long ago most Kiwis had a veggie garden, ours was about 50sqM and, along with the little glasshouse provided a significant part of the family's requirements. Most housewives bottled fruit, made jam, pickles etc. All of that wasn't enough to survive on, either in terms of quantity or variety, but it was a damn good start.

I was moderately gobsmacked to learn that China's farmers, some 65% of the population, produce almost all of their requirements from just 1000sqM each. That's a bit of dirt the size of a largish suburban section per head of population. By decree anything designated rural having less than a 25 deg slope is "farm". Some of the things they "farm" are... interesting. And, like most of the developing world food quality in general is far below what we'd accept. For now.

And yes, I'm fookin' old. Thank's fer askin'.

[Boob Johnson]

Yup, not too long ago most Kiwis had a veggie garden, ours was about 50sqM and, along with the little glasshouse provided a significant part of the family's requirements. Most housewives bottled fruit, made jam, pickles etc. All of that wasn't enough to survive on, either in terms of quantity or variety, but it was a damn good start.

I was moderately gobsmacked to learn that China's farmers, some 65% of the population, produce almost all of their requirements from just 100sqM each. That's a bit of dirt the size of a largish suburban section per head of population. By decree anything designated rural having less than a 25 deg slope is "farm". Some of the things they "farm" are... interesting. And, like most of the developing world food quality in general is far below what we'd accept. For now.

And yes, I'm fookin' old. Thank's fer askin'.

Yup we were the same when I was a kid, dad's vege garden & hothouse for the toms (cough) & other hippy type plants that looked a lot like tomatoe plants but never seem to grow the red things, took years to work that one out

Funny thing was we very rarely got sick in those days, hardly any colds or flu's, fresh veg from the garden straight into the pot, doesn't get any better than that




Was a doco on last year showed a reasonably weathly businessman sold up & was living in a house bus on some land on the Coromandel, vege garden of course & was making a mud brick house by hand. He reckon the whole thing was gunna go belly up at some point so may as well get a head start

[SPman]

.....
NZ would become a series of isolated fishing villages in very short order.

That's assuming there is anything left to fish!

I think if/when things do start to collapse, it will happen a damn sight quicker than most people will realise.
If you survive the first month, you might have a fighting chance of getting through the first year.

[scumdog]

No it isn't. 6 billion people could live in Texas and still have enough room for a 1.5 acre section. Enough for a cow, some chickens and a big veggie garden. The acquisition of valueless, virtual capital by the few exploiting the many is fucking the planet.

At the end of the day it WILL be too many people with too greedy an attitude creating too much pollution and waste that will end life as we know it, mark my words....

Everybody wants a better life, full steam ahead and damn the environment...

[Edbear]

No it isn't. 6 billion people could live in Texas and still have enough room for a 1.5 acre section. Enough for a cow, some chickens and a big veggie garden. The acquisition of valueless, virtual capital by the few exploiting the many is fucking the planet.

Perzackly correct! And the world is currently producing enough food to feed 13 billion, yet 25% of the world is starving!

Excuse me while I go stab myself in the eye with a screw driver. That would be more cheerful. Not sure whether I buy into his pesimistic view...but as a race we sure have rooted this world.

What? Human's ruining their own planet that they rely on for life? Nah, surely not...

Save the planet, get rid of the humans. Pretty simple really. So who's first?

Yup! Nothing wrong with the Earth that proper management can't fix... Anyone reckon human's will save the planet?

[Swoop]

Better set up Moonbase Alpha as soon as possible!!!

Yes, Commander Koenig.

[scrivy]

No it isn't. 6 billion people could live in Texas and still have enough room for a 1.5 acre section. Enough for a cow, some chickens and a big veggie garden. The acquisition of valueless, virtual capital by the few exploiting the many is fucking the planet.

Jim2, the extra billions of people aren't directly going to f@ck this planet. It's their wastes - sewage, air pollution, dead waterways etc that will do the damage. We don't have enough clean air or clean water to sustain the extra people. Yes we may be able to feed 13 billion people, but how will you move the food around the world without the infrastructure we will lack in the future?? Poorer people cant migrate to the better parts of the world, who'll want them? It will just create more world wars.
So, in a sense, over population will destroy our planet.
All caused by you dirty little f@ckers on KB getting your leg over all the time!!

[Ocean1]

Jim2, the extra billions of people aren't directly going to f@ck this planet. It's their wastes - sewage, air pollution, dead waterways etc that will do the damage. We don't have enough clean air or clean water to sustain the extra people. Yes we may be able to feed 13 billion people, but how will you move the food around the world without the infrastructure we will lack in the future?? Poorer people cant migrate to the better parts of the world, who'll want them? It will just create more world wars.
So, in a sense, over population will destroy our planet.
All caused by you dirty little f@ckers on KB getting your leg over all the time!!

That "extra" population is contingent only on good management of production and distribution at a global level. There are many things you can point to that constitute poor management, probably the most unsavoury fall under the heading "consumerism". That, and the total lack of management represented by most of the third world. Add to that the idealistic social and fiscal policies driving most of the rest of the world's governments, devouring huge quantities of resources for zero return and the number of "extras" starts to look larger than it could be.

There's more at stake than human rights and social equality, evolution doesn't recognise such bullshit. If we compromise sensible ecological management policies in favour of short term expediency we simply won't survive. If "climate change" (™) doesn't get us something else eventually will. The focus needs to be on maintaining resources at a sustainable level, and as the gentleman suggests that means more technology, not less. It also means a level of coherent global cooperation in setting policy that has never existed, and is unlikely to.

War? Certainly, wars are always about resources, if they reduce or migrate then global warfare will proliferate. It’s been quiet for almost a century, due largely to technological advances and resource surpluses, perhaps that’s about to change. If so it might mean the end of advanced technology, and therefore civilisation as we know it. Maybe rather than selling my boat I should arm it eh?