Giving way to right-turning vehicles?

[Skyryder]

Rule here is actually manifest all the time whereby you are turning left into a rd and an oncoming car also wants to turn left. They have priority, unless they are in a lane that has a yield, in which case they generally assume they have priority (guess what? ...).

Two oncoming vehicle turning left and one has priority???? They are both turning away from each other.


Skyryder

[Ixion]

But......... Who does actually look at the road they're turning into for a give way sign?! It's fuckin' harder to pull out right in front of someone anyway from an uncontrolled intersection then to let them turn! This rule should be abolished.

The rule is simplicity itself.

Turning left ? Give way to everything.
Turning right ? Give way to anything you see when you look right.

Anyone who cannot comprehend it should not be on the road.Or indeed , loose in society.

And I certainly hope that everyone "does actually look at the road they're turning into for a give way sign". I always do. And assume that cages will ignore it.

The obsessive need that people seem to have nowdays for signs to tell them what to do is a sad indication of the general level of cretinism endemic on the roads. There is NO need for give way or stop signs except when it is necessary to override the general rule. If the right hand rules means that traffic would have to give way anyway,. there should be no sign.

[Skyryder]

something else i've been told, this doesn't apply to driveways because if you are exiting a driveway you are supposed to give way to people on the road.

BUT public access driveways like the one at foodtown supposedly are treated like road intersections.

That's correct. Access to and from a public car park is to be treated in the same manner as if this was an intersection. If you are making a 'right' hand turn into the carpark and a vehicle is waiting to exit the park and is signalling that he is turning right you give way. Few do but if you are leaving the park and making a right hand turn you have the right of way. Use this rule safely and it will save you a lot of time.

Skyyrder

[ManDownUnder]

It's such an easy rule! Translate it into the following to make it even easier...

If the other car will KILL YOU (because it hit you in the driver's door) ... give way to it. (Insert "right arm" for "driver's door" as appropriate on a m/c)

[90s]

Two oncoming vehicle turning left and one has priority???? They are both turning away from each other.
Skyryder

Left as in "your left". Right for them.

[musicman]

Turning right ? Give way to anything you see when you look right.

Except when the vehicle on the right is at a give way or stop sign, or when there is an oncoming vehicle turning left into the same street.

[KLOWN]

as a general rule most drivers just give way to the car on the busier road, whether this is right or not. I came across this problem a lot when i lived in palmerston North, lots of little roads intersecting with no signage. Usually i didn't bother about giving way cause no one followed the rule but one day when i was coming home there was a cop car on the road i was turning into, on my right, and he was also turning right. So i applied the give way rule so i didnt recieve a ticket and ended up waiting about 5 minutes as the cop gestured for me to go, but i refused as i didnt want a ticket. Its a rule followed rarely but if u find someone who actually uses it you will be at fault in an accident

[Badjelly]

Except when the vehicle on the right is at a give way or stop sign, or when there is an oncoming vehicle turning left into the same street.

"...when there is an oncoming vehicle turning left into the same street?" That's news to me!

[Ixion]

Except when the vehicle on the right is at a give way or stop sign, or when there is an oncoming vehicle turning left into the same street.

Yes, yes, or is at a traffic light, or is an emergency vehicles with lights and siren, or you are following the directions of an enforcement officer.

[Skyryder]

"...when there is an oncoming vehicle turning left into the same street?" That's news to me!

I think he means when both oncoming vehicles are turning into the same street.

One will be making a left turn the other a right.

Skyryder

[Skyryder]

Left as in "your left". Right for them.

Right.

Skyryder

[Ixion]

No, the other right.

[Usarka]

Correct....

[Badjelly]

"...when there is an oncoming vehicle turning left into the same street?" That's news to me!

I think he means when both oncoming vehicles are turning into the same street. One will be making a left turn the other a right.

Yes. So we have a T intersection, no give way or stop signs. Vehicle A wants to turn right off the through road onto the side street; vehicle B, coming out of the side street, wants to turn right onto the through road; vehicle C, coming down the through road in the opposite direction to A, wants to turn left.

I understood musicman to mean A can proceed. (Have I misunderstood?) The way I see it is that A has to give way to B, and C has to give way to A. B has no one to give way to, so B should proceed while the others wait (but if C is quick she can whip around while B is blocking A).

What happens in practice is everyone waits, then everyone goes at the same time. But I'm talking about what should happen.

[PrincessBandit]

Always adhere to the give way to things on your right at uncontrolled intersections where turning is involved, even though plenty of people don't seem to follow it. Most of the intersections where it's an issue for me have been "converted" to official Give Ways now so it's not quite the hassle it used to be.