Originally Posted by inlinefour
Beat u to it in post 2.
Forum whore
Beat u to it in post 2.
Born to be mild
But Wiki isn't always. I don't think that the entry is correct. There was a brief thread on this a couple of years back which explained it all quite well and it was all very logical in the end.
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NEDWN VIII
Ohhhhhhhhhhh I seeeeeee, I cocked up the word?....perhaps Mr Hitcher can relieve me on my releave???Ah, but did you consider 'relieve'?....
To easy, wheres the fun in that, I enjoy silent conversation.
Blowin up bikes since ages ago
Maybe he could relieve you of your release?!
"Some people are like clouds, once they fuck off, it's a great day!"
parting of the sensory
Most of them are marketing bullshit, and don't mean much - just sound sexy.And of course the Japanese copy one another, so if one of them puts an 'X' or 'RR' into the name, they all start doing it. Like the cars that have "GT" - it's supposed to mean "Gran Turismo", but most GT cars are not sports tourers, just as those that have "SL" in their name are not "Super Legerra" or super-light.
"R" and "RR" is usually supposed to make you think it is race-derived, race-replica, or whatever, but it's not necessarily so.
There is some vague logic to some of it. For Honda, they started using "CB" to denote their road bikes, back in the '60s, and later added the extra 'R' or three to some models to denote some link with the race bikes. Presumably Kawasaki and Suzuki did the same.
The "CB"or "CBR" or "VFR" is only their marketing designation though - their bikes all have an official factory model number - that for the VFR800 is at the top right of this post: RC46.
"VFR" tells you it's a Vee Four, and originally, the "R" mean it had gear-driven overhead cams. The original V4s had camchains, so were 'VF' designated: VF500, VF750 and VF1000. However, when they got to the "sixth generation" VFRs in 2002, and dropped the gear-driven cams, they didn't drop the "R" as there was already market recognition of the VFR model, and the 2002 model wasn't significantly different enough from the 2001 model to adopt a new model number (like RC47) or a new name, so it's still a VFR800, albeit with the "VTec" appellation.
"VTR" means "Vee Two", and the "R" has been tacked on to make you think it's racy. The VTR1000 SP1, SP2 etc. do have gear-driven cams though, but the vanilla model VTR doesn't.
Yeah, so basically it's all bollocks.
... and that's what I think.
Or summat.
Or maybe not...
Dunno really....
Chump
Here is one guys opinion.
"Off-road, the CR prefix indicates a lightweight motocross bike, XR a dirt bike and XL a streetlegal dual-sport. On the street, CB means city bike, the suffix R is replica and RR is race replica. VF signifies V-four as in the VFR800. ST means sport touring as in ST1300.
Among the Honda V-twin cruisers, the Shadow range has several styles with names such as Sabre, Spirit and Aero. VLX means a luxury cruiser, and VTX stands is V-Twin Extreme. The last letter of the model name--a VTX1800R, for example--describes the style. R is retro, S is classic, F is sport cruiser, C is performance.
BMW has four basic classes: F, H, K and R. The F650 series encompasses three, single-cylinder dual-sport bikes, the H is a twin-cylinder version. The K series are 4-cylinder bikes, which include the GT (sport touring), LT (touring), R (naked) and S (sport). The R series is the biggest group: the horizontally opposed twin "boxer" with naked, sport, dual-sport and sport-touring versions.
Yamaha has expanded its heavyweight V-twin Star range to 14 models. Royal Stars, Stratoliners, Roadliners, Road Stars and V-Stars offer different styles and levels of equipment.
Super Sport Yamahas have been prefixed YZF since 1994, but are mostly known by their last initials: R1 or R6 (1,000-cc or 600-cc). The FZ1 and FZ6 are less extreme. YZ signifies barebones motocross bikes and an F suffix--YZ450F, for example means it has a four-stroke engine. WR and TT models are more moderate off-roaders.
"We try to give cruisers a name as opposed to number because the customer wants a personal connection," said Derek Brooks, Yamaha's product planning manager. "We come up with 30 or 40 ideas, get them down to 15 or 20 then start searching trademarks and that's where the fun begins."
Brooks recalls that the YZ dirt bike prefix came into use "because they were the last two letters in the alphabet--literally the last word."
V-Max was condensed from "Velocity Maximum" and Virago, dates to 1981, is a case of how a name sounds, rather than what it means (a quarrelsome woman), Brooks said.
Harley has four basic lines, the V-Rod, Dyna, Softtail and Touring but there are many subsets, says Bob Klein, manager of corporate communications.
"The Sportster is our oldest line and goes back to 1957--the V-Rod is the newest and that comes from our signature V and hot rod or street rod heritage," he says.
The Sportster has four models of 883-ccs including the Low, Custom and Racing styles. There are four Dyna: Super Glide, Super Glide Custom, Street Bob and Low Rider. The Softails are Night Train, Springer, Deuce and Fat Boy, the VRSC models are V-Rod, Night Rod and Street Rod and the Touring bikes are Road King, Road Glide and Street Glide.
"The sportster family was given the letter X to identify them--so XLCH, XLCR and so on. The FL letters apply to the touring bikes and go back to the Electraglide in 1965. The FX models appeared in 1971 with the Superglide; they had the forks of a Sportster and the back of a Touring."
With Softails, FX means cruiser and FL is touring. So an FLSTF would be a Softail touring with the last F meaning Fatboy. An FXSTD would be a Softail Deuce cruiser. "If there's an `I' it means injection," he says.
At Kawasaki, the Vulcan series features bikes from 500- to 2000-cc, with a Nomad tourer and Mean Streak, Drifter and Classic cruisers. The Ninja sportbike name survives, still with a ZX prefix, which dates to the Z1 of 1973. ZZs are sport touring. KLR means dual-sport, KLX is offroad and KX is bare-bones motocross.
Suzuki has combined all its cruisers under the Boulevard label with styling and equipment variations. The Hayabusa and Katana sportbikes are Japanese Kanji names and the V-Strom is a big dual sport with a V-twin engine and the "strom" from maelstrom.
The GSX-R (which could mean Grand Sport Extreme-Racing, though it's not defined as such) is turning 20. The SV650 (Sport V-twin) range is expanding to a V-Strom and a naked street bike.
Ducati continues to name its bikes for engine displacement. So the 999 is 999-ccs, R is racing and S is sports. The Multistrada (many roads) is a big dual sport, and the Monster is a barebones streetfighter. The suffixes S and ST followed by number 2, 3 or 4 indicate the number of valves per cylinder."
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NEDWN VIII
Shut the fuck up..........
Between you and me, we have managed to confuse me beyond brick wallness....
Blowin up bikes since ages ago
Never mind dear, you're just getting old. Get the missus to make you a nice warm cup of shut the f... oh I mean TeaShut the fuck up..........
Between you and me, we have managed to confuse me beyond brick wallness....
"Some people are like clouds, once they fuck off, it's a great day!"
NEDWN VIII
Is what thought..excellent post btw!Most of them are marketing bullshit, and don't mean much - just sound sexy.
"R" and "RR" is usually supposed to make you think it is race-derived, race-replica, or whatever, but it's not necessarily so.
There is some vague logic to some of it. For Honda, they started using "CB" to denote their road bikes, back in the '60s, and later added the extra 'R' or three to some models to denote some link with the race bikes. Presumably Kawasaki and Suzuki did the same.
The "CB"or "CBR" or "VFR" is only their marketing designation though - their bikes all have an official factory model number - that for the VFR800 is at the top right of this post: RC46.
"VFR" tells you it's a Vee Four, and originally, the "R" mean it had gear-driven overhead cams. The original V4s had camchains, so were 'VF' designated: VF500, VF750 and VF1000. However, when they got to the "sixth generation" VFRs in 2002, and dropped the gear-driven cams, they didn't drop the "R" as there was already market recognition of the VFR model, and the 2002 model wasn't significantly different enough from the 2001 model to adopt a new model number (like RC47) or a new name, so it's still a VFR800, albeit with the "VTec" appellation.
"VTR" means "Vee Two", and the "R" has been tacked on to make you think it's racy. The VTR1000 SP1, SP2 etc. do have gear-driven cams though, but the vanilla model VTR doesn't.
Yeah, so basically it's all bollocks.
NEDWN VIII
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh the relief!!!.....I win???......Never mind dear, you're just getting old. Get the missus to make you a nice warm cup of shut the f... oh I mean Tea
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VFR = Visual Flight Rules.
Ask any pilot.
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NEDWN VIII
the Hayabusa is technically not a GSXR but some hybrid between the that and the Katana given it's model moniker GSX1300R.
Found this in jrandoms link.....didnt know that either.
The Ragin Cajun
meaning of GSX-RHave wondered for many years, well four to be exact, as to what the hell the 'Letters' relating to a bike model mean exactly?
GSXR???.... Grossly Sexy Extremely Racey?... I could a bit out with a word or two but what does GSXR stand for?
Same with CB/CBR/CBRR... the list is endeless. VFR/VTR.....etc
I know what ST means but GSXF??...something bla bla Faired??
Any enlightenment on any of these and more would be a great help to release the inner stress of it all.
The GS denotes four cylinders with overhead valves.
The X means four valves per cylinder
The R is for race replica.
The Ragin Cajun
yes since is know as a GSX1300R not a GSX-R 1300, so its not a race replica bike its more sport touring aimed.
Trainer wheels optional
Honda was phasing out inline fours with the VF fours, but when they started to go to custard they very quickly went back to their sucsess story IL4's, and the tradtional CB handle with a update feature R.
Suzuki went from GT two strokes to GS four strokes, X's and R's being added with renewed model lines.
The more X's & R's you can add value & dollars to the sale price.
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