Power to weight restriction

**u4ea** · 14th May 2008, 07:34

where have I been?? Just caught up with this thread.It all makes perfect sense to me. About bloody time!!! OK so we might grumble that certain bikes will be "excluded" but at least it opens up the market and larger bikes can be ridden.The 70 k rule is going(I dont know anyone that actually did 70k on learners anyhoo).All in all they heard us!

**WelshWizard** · 14th May 2008, 08:51

Originally Posted by PirateJafa

Not at all - owners of the sports two-fiddys will not lose out in the slightest.

If you look at the >250 bikes on the list, they mostly singles and slow.

If a learners wants to get a fast bike, he/she will still be looking for a ZXR or CBR, and will still be willing to pay the same prices we do now.

To put it simply - nothing is going to change for anyone barring cruiser riders. And 250 2-smokers.

I remember similar words said when the UK introed the 125CC law and got rid of the 250 learner class, killed the 250 market within months,
Only with high fuel cost are 250's starting to sell again the UK, mostly the slow cheap single for cheap commuting, time will tell if this law even gets into the books.

**Mikkel** · 14th May 2008, 13:26

Originally Posted by u4ea

I dont know anyone that actually did 70k on learners anyhoo

Well, you pass 70 km/h on the way to 100

Also, you have to get around town one way or the other...

**PirateJafa** · 14th May 2008, 20:11

Originally Posted by WelshWizard

I remember similar words said when the UK introed the 125CC law and got rid of the 250 learner class, killed the 250 market within months,
Only with high fuel cost are 250's starting to sell again the UK, mostly the slow cheap single for cheap commuting, time will tell if this law even gets into the books.

Sorry what? There is a difference between changing to maximum bike size from 250cc to 125cc, and the NZ situation, which is going from 250cc to 250 cc + a handful of larger, but slower bikes

The only people who are going to lose out are people with 250cc two-strokes and possibly* people with 250cc cruisers.

*Possibly, but on the whole I'm not worried about what happens to them as I'm not a cruiser rider.

**WelshWizard** · 15th May 2008, 16:44

Originally Posted by PirateJafa

Sorry what? There is a difference between changing to maximum bike size from 250cc to 125cc, and the NZ situation, which is going from 250cc to 250 cc + a handful of larger, but slower bikes

The only people who are going to lose out are people with 250cc two-strokes and possibly* people with 250cc cruisers.

*Possibly, but on the whole I'm not worried about what happens to them as I'm not a cruiser rider.

They intro a sim law in the UK some years ago, 250's never came back and sales of 125 even went down

**faredce** · 16th May 2008, 13:13

hold up im still abit confused. iv gt a 125cc is that going to be all good or am i screwed?

**u4ea** · 16th May 2008, 16:37

Originally Posted by Mikkel

Well, you pass 70 km/h on the way to 100

Also, you have to get around town one way or the other...

:slap:..................

**mark247** · 16th May 2008, 16:46

Originally Posted by faredce

hold up im still abit confused. iv gt a 125cc is that going to be all good or am i screwed?

all it possibly means is that it might lose some of its value. but i doubt an aprilia rs125 would change in value that much as well, because they are not really an average joe learner bike...

**WelshWizard** · 16th May 2008, 19:12

Originally Posted by faredce

hold up im still abit confused. iv gt a 125cc is that going to be all good or am i screwed?

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There will still be people out there who want 125's and 250's but their main reason for buying them will be fuel consumtion, any one learning will always be tempted to go for the larger cap bike, a it will take more agro than a small engine and it the I've go bigger balls than you syndrome.

**peasea** · 20th May 2008, 18:51

Don't let the bottom fall out of your world; have a Madras curry and let the world fall out of your bottom.

**breakaway** · 20th May 2008, 19:02

Originally Posted by peasea

have a Madras curry and let the world fall out of your bottom.

It's spicier coming out than it is going in innit

**2fst4u** · 20th May 2008, 19:29

Originally Posted by WelshWizard

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There will still be people out there who want 125's and 250's but their main reason for buying them will be fuel consumtion, any one learning will always be tempted to go for the larger cap bike, a it will take more agro than a small engine and it the I've go bigger balls than you syndrome.

none of the bigger bikes on the list scream cool to me. i would still prefer a zxr or cbr