Cheep Shoei and Arai sales on trade me

**skidMark** · 24th May 2008, 03:49

Originally Posted by maha man

They just put the little tags on the inside and you choose either ....
SM/LG/XL or OMFG YOU GOT A BIG HEAD size, I know of only one that has the last size mentioned...and no it aint me.....

Imagne trying to sell somebody a helmet, not being racist here just stating fact, and having to tell islander/maori. that they have to pay $20 more for a helmet because they have a different shaped head, because the cs10 etc you could go hugeee sizes, just not right for thier head, had to goto the other model (cant remember exact code sorry) and youd find one that fitted pretty easily. usually ended up giving them a discount to make it the price of the usual one so i didn't get my head boxed in lol.

**pritch** · 24th May 2008, 10:14

Originally Posted by Big Dave

If you actually build a relationship with a shop you get that back with interest.

2 hours ago.

'Hi Shane my speedo has stopped working'

'Drop it in and we'll replace the sensor.'

'Cool I have a few calls to do on Monday - can you lend me a bike for a few hours'

'Sure.'

And I get a discount on everything I buy.

Yep, that's been my experience.

If you bought a Honda though you wouldn't have to worry about crappy parts not working.

**FJRider** · 24th May 2008, 10:30

Welcome to the MAINLAND Mark. Well done

**Sollyboy** · 24th May 2008, 10:35

Originally Posted by imdying

An Arai dealer will service an Arai helmet (replace broken bits, clean and adjust) a NZ new Arai helmet every single day for free if you want to take it in every day.

Rubbish........

**imdying** · 24th May 2008, 11:43

Originally Posted by Sollyboy

Rubbish........

Perhaps they don't like you? That was the dealers response to the question 'Why would I buy one from him instead of from overseas?". He also tells me that not only will they provide that service, but they send their parts rep to the Arai dealer thingy every year so that he knows exactly what he's doing when he's providing the aforementioned service. I'm guessing it'll be the broken bits you have a hard time with? I doubt that their service covers abuse of course...

**geoffc** · 24th May 2008, 12:52

I bought an Arai on the Internet 2 years ago & are very pleased with it. Having said that I would be very cautious of items purchased out of Hong Kong/China. They are masters at copying. Stickers and labels can make it look authentic but check details like the weight of the helmet which could give a clue. Does it match up with the advertised figures?

**Big Dave** · 24th May 2008, 14:18

Originally Posted by pritch008

Yep, that's been my experience.

If you bought a Honda though you wouldn't have to worry about crappy parts not working.

Ha. Just fixed it myself anyway - dirty connection.

**Jono25** · 26th May 2008, 08:40

Watched A Programme On The Box Last Night About Chinese Knock-offs And Fake Counterfeit Products. Perhaps The Guy In Wellington Can Sell Helmets Cheap Because They Are Fakes. After All, From What I Can Make Out He Is Not An Offical Distributor Of The The Helmets He Is Selling So How Do You Know Where They Come From. We Are Talking About Our Lives Here So I Think I'll Stick To Getting My Helmets From Shops That I Know Are Reputable!

**Owl** · 26th May 2008, 22:02

Originally Posted by Jono25

Watched A Programme On The Box Last Night About Chinese Knock-offs And Fake Counterfeit Products. Perhaps The Guy In Wellington Can Sell Helmets Cheap Because They Are Fakes. After All, From What I Can Make Out He Is Not An Offical Distributor Of The The Helmets He Is Selling So How Do You Know Where They Come From. We Are Talking About Our Lives Here So I Think I'll Stick To Getting My Helmets From Shops That I Know Are Reputable!

Fair enough sticking to a retail shop, however the helmets are genuine!

**boomer** · 26th May 2008, 22:17

Originally Posted by Klown73

Yep, fair point, at the end of the day we're talking about your average head shape here, so some will fit great, others will not. Hence some people find Shoeis more comfortable, others may find Arais more comfortable.

Originally Posted by Marmoot

whoa! stay away from the race card.

They can't drive, let alone ride 2-wheeled vehicles.

Merely stating the fact that my head might be different from yours. Same as everybody else.
By the way, I hope using oxymoron does not make you a moron.

Originally Posted by Klown73

I thought I'd play devil's advocate, so asked the question of Shoei regarding different shapes versus different territories:

"The shape of shell is same (using the same mold), but the material (a component ratio) is different. The interior is also different because the shapes of the head between European and Asian people is different."

The question here is not safety, Shoeis / Arais from any territory have to be, and will be, safe and legal. It's more a comfort issue. You can't blame Niaoniao for trying to make a buck when the currency is (was) strong, but I feel he's obligated to advise people that there is a difference, and that they may not receive after-sales service that proves his product good value for money.

So NZ'ers and the Islanders have to fit there coconut shaped heeeds into a skinny white boys helmet... poor fookahs!

Originally Posted by nodrog

read -

http://www.araihelmet-europe.com/php....php?page=faq5

FWIW i imported my RX7, up to $700 cheaper (depending on what stealership you go into), and it is EXACTLY the same as the ones in the shop.

bwahahahha spot on

Originally Posted by Pussy

Anyone know what the difference in spec is between a Shoei helmet for the American market, and a European market example?

The difference on average is about 15 Stone

we should all embrace free and open trade; however just like having a quickie.. sometimes not protecting yourself can bite you in the nads

**Jono25** · 27th May 2008, 08:56

Originally Posted by Ferris

Fair enough sticking to a retail shop, however the helmets are genuine!

Fair enough but how do you know? It seems to me the only way you can be sure is if you buy them from an authorised dealer. If this guy was so up front why can't you visit him to try the helmets on. Why does he have to hide behind trademe if he is so genuine??? Just a thought.

**imdying** · 27th May 2008, 09:02

Originally Posted by Jono25

Fair enough but how do you know? It seems to me the only way you can be sure is if you buy them from an authorised dealer. If this guy was so up front why can't you visit him to try the helmets on. Why does he have to hide behind trademe if he is so genuine??? Just a thought.

Try reading the thread...

**CookMySock** · 27th May 2008, 10:03

Originally Posted by Katman

The onus actually is on the bike shop to build that relationship. The only thing they ask of the customer is that they buy their product. If the shop fails to meet their end of the bargain once something has been bought (within reason of course) then they deserve to go out of business.

I am always aware that without my customers my business has nothing.

I don't think you need to be this hard on yourself Katman. You have your ethics and good character, and while many customers will see and respect this, many will not, and they will trample you and take what they can. It has been very difficult for me to tell these two groups of people apart, offering respect in turn where it was afforded to me, and protecting myself from those who would take advantage of me.

The customer is not always right.

DB

**DVS 69** · 27th May 2008, 10:23

I brought a Arai helmet and have found it to be the best ive ever had, didnt relise how crappy my old hjc fitted till i tried the arai in contrast the arai fits like a helmet should and the hjc wasnt ever my head shape. Iam really happy with it.