Red light experience - venting

[Katman]

I think he's irritated because it was said AND because you said it again...and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again....and again............

Do you feel better now?

It won't be the last time you hear it either.

[Devil]

The new roundabout indication rule, haha i recon that sucks ! Particularly straight through a 4 way r/bout, ggrrr i aint going right so why indicate such (unless there is someone to my left) then switch to say im going straight by indicating left ! 90% of drivers at such roundabouts, stop, then wonder what the rules are for a few seconds, then look for indicators, pffffft i'm a hundy mtrs up the road by then even if they should have r/o/way otherwise the flow stops cause that 90% don't know the rules !

1) It's not a new rule. It's an old rule they're only now putting an emphasis on enforcing

2) You're not supposed to indicate right if you're going straight through the roundabout. You dont signal entering it, then you signal left before your exit. It makes complete sense and you're talking about how OTHERS have trouble with it?

Small caveat on the straight through roundabout thing: On some wonky roundabouts where you're technically going straight through, but the design of the road is unclear, it makes sense to indicate as such to make it clear to others where you're going.

[MSTRS:Me]

1) It's not a new rule. It's an old rule they're only now putting an emphasis on enforcing

2) You're not supposed to indicate right if you're going straight through the roundabout. You dont signal entering it, then you signal left as you're leaving. It makes complete sense and you're talking about how OTHERS have trouble with it?

On a 4 point (for eg) 'most' of us signal right on approach if we are taking the 3rd exit, and then left as we pass the 2nd exit. Don't we?

[Devil]

On a 4 point (for eg) 'most' of us signal right on approach if we are taking the 3rd exit, and then left as we pass the 2nd exit. Don't we?

If you mean you enter at #1, pass #2 and exit at #3 (straight ahead), then no, you dont signal right on approach. (Unless it's a really funky shape)

[MSTRS:Me]

Ah no...I mean when the 3rd exit is on your right as you approach. Like making a right turn in the absence of a roundabout.

[Devil]

Ah no...I mean when the 3rd exit is on your right as you approach. Like making a right turn in the absence of a roundabout.

Then yes, completely correct.

The logic:
To the people on your left and at the straight ahead exit, you're showing them that you're going to cross their path, then once you've passed the straight ahead one, you'll signal left to let the people at the 3rd exit (the one you're planning on taking) know that you're leaving the roundabout and it's (most likely) going to be safe to consider pulling out.

[sinfull]

If you mean you enter at #1, pass #2 and exit at #3 (straight ahead), then no, you dont signal right on approach. (Unless it's a really funky shape)

Didn't say others had trouble with it man read it again ! i said it sucks !
So your saying i dont indicate right as i enter (which i dont anyhow lol see no problems with it) and only indicate left as i get to the road on my left ? haha have to be a big roundabout is what im saying, lol by the time i'm paralell with the road on my left so i could indicate safely, so the bloke coming out of said road on my left, dont shoot out and ram me thinking im turning left, i'm on my exit run out the next exit obviously not turning right !
If it were a big r/bout and there was a car/bike/truck slowing for it coming straight at me (as i said curtious) I'd be more inclined to point where im going with a flash of the arm !

I have done it on occasion and as an aggressive rider/driver its bloody near pointless !~

[Devil]

Didn't say others had trouble with it man read it again !

90% of drivers at such roundabouts, stop, then wonder what the rules are for a few seconds, then look for indicators

... sounds like others have trouble with it...

Yes, on small roundabouts it doesn't give much time.

[Ragingrob]

Well with some of the driving I've seen by taxi drivers around Auckland I was not surprised at all with that story. Driving including U-turns all over the place in front of people and in no u-turn zones, erratic "parking" i.e. just slamming on the brakes when someone signals to them, even if I biker is behind. Not to mention having been in a taxi at 80kph along 50kph streets until I told him "Fuck man I ain't in a rush so take it easy!".

He probably hasn't had a ticket in the last 30 years cause he's used his big whinge excuse and been let off 30 times!

[sinfull]

... sounds like others have trouble with it...

Yes, on small roundabouts it doesn't give much time.

Was talking bout who has right of way ! You cant tell me more than 10 % of NZ drivers know the right of way rules ! You see it everyday at roundabouts , they sit there at 3 entry points looking at one another stupidly, was all i was saying !
But yes ya did pull me up on the indicate right as ya enter and good on ya that would be a bling to you i could be wrong !

[FJRider]

Q good idea if you get charged is to get a copy of the legislation, and satisfy yourself about what the law ACTUALLY says, don't just settle for what you recall from your own memory. If you have broken the law that is actually written, you'll save your time by avoiding defending a forgone conclusion.

And leave the legal profession with nothing to do ??? Defending forgone conclusion's is the Kiwi way...

[jimbo600]

One trend I have noticed is the remarkable trend of people who don't speed don't get speeding tickets. Likewise for seatbelts, people wearing them tend not to get tickets. And lots of other things, don't do it, don't get the ticket.

Anyone else noticed that?

Yeah I hear ya, but when I'm away from the main highways and its a primo day with no traffic, its hard to stick to 100k's mate.

Damn hard keeping it on two wheels for that matter.

[phantom]

Find the Road User Rule 2004, about Section 7.4 or 7.5

It deals with seatbelts and exemptions. Taxi drivers have an exemption while plying for hire.

Hey, this was not a diatribe about taxi drivers, this was a grizzle about people who have an inflated view of themselves, who regard everyone else as the problem.

I stand corrected. I suspect it dates back to when taxi drivers got out of their cars and opened the doors for their customers. I find that taxi drivers are no better and no worse than other "professional" drivers

[shafty]

Good post Rastus, take a bow.

[awayatc]

One trend I have noticed is the remarkable trend of people who don't speed don't get speeding tickets. Anyone else noticed that?

Now where is the fun in that.....?
Might as well take the bus....
Or get a bike with flashing lights!!!!
Swap.....?