Can you get off a speeding ticket for incorrect information?

[Irontusk]

How many people with HIS driver's license number do ya reckon are driving around ??? He got the ticket MAILED to him... wrong person???

I can't remember if this has been covered already.. but maybe he copied the number wrong? (Ok, so he didn't, but this could be questioned as he clearly wasn't very on to it that day)

[Winston001]

I can't remember if this has been covered already.. but maybe he copied the number wrong? (Ok, so he didn't, but this could be questioned as he clearly wasn't very on to it that day)

Well yes, thats my point. If the officer made a mistake with the rego, why not a mistake with the licence? Innocent until proven guilty, reasonable doubt.

Just because you are summonsed doesn't mean you are the correct person apprehended at that time and place. So long as you simply ask questions, raise a doubt, and don't lie, this is an absolutely legitimate way to defend this charge.

Its not a game, just correct use of legal rights.

[RT527]

Yes I understand that I was over the speed limit, however in my eyes trying to pass a vehicle travelling at 85/90 kph at 100 kph and spending god knows how long on the wrong side of the road while doing so is alot more of a risk to other road users than passing at 120kph and getting the manouvre completed quickly and effectively.
If I get speeding on my bike I will put my hand up and take the . But I travel between 800 & 1200 km a week in my car so the risk of having a speed related accident/ a ticket are quite high. For that reason I make a concerted effort to control the right foot. I get passed by more vehicles than I could count travelling at 110+ kph and I suppose I feel a bit singled out on this occasion. If I had been intentionally travelling at that speed constantly then I would pay with no issue.

Have ya ever thought of just waiting for a passing lane...geez it might hold you up all of 1 to 2 mins longer???....I get it all the time...Im in a truck ...they in a car...old fella wearing a hat...doing 60-70 in a 100.

Oh btw Im restricted to 91 kph flat out, fast as i can go.
Thing is I know this so dont even risk it i just have some patience back off a little so as not to give granddad a coronary and wait my time.
( i know i know i get paid by the hour so alls good haha.)

Also your admitting you did it and not blaming the other driver for making YOU get a ticket by speeding ..

Lol sorry bout all this...just got back from a 2 car mva ....very very lucky people.so me road safe side of me is still active.
Right back to being a lazy slob whom isnt perfect either.

[FJRider]

OK. Got a letter back from our friendly boys in blue.. Nuts and bolts is because the offence does not relate to the vehicle but the driver I have to pay unless I go to court.. Was worth a try tho..

When he goes to court, make sure you help him out with legal expenses/court costs if he gets found not guilty(they will cost more than the original fine) and if found guilty... resulting fine WILL be greater than the original fine... PM timetoride for HIS bank account detail's, and wish him luck from me.

[Ixion]

The trouble with that theory is that as soon as a passing lane appears grandad will invariable accelerate to 110kph. And them of course, slow back to 60 kph as soon as the road narrows. So whichever way, you can only get past him by exceeding the speed limit.

The "oh it will only hold you up for 1 or 2 minutes" is a total red herring. If I have 400 km to travel , and I can hold 100kph average, I'll be there in 4 hours. So, I can do whatever I have to do, and return , be home at a reasonable hour. If I am dropped to a 50kph avergae , due to being held up all the way by grandad and his myraid successors (it's not "just a minute or two", it's 10 or 15 minutes PER GRANDAD) , then it becomes an 8 hour trip. So now I can't get home that day (or if I do I'll be dead beat, and been driving for 16 ours, and that's certainly not safe).

So grandad's inconsiderate arrogance turns my there and back in a day into a two day trip. He costs me a day of my life (and I don't have that many left). Plus hotel and victualling costs for a night. Why should I suffer thus because he is an arrogant incompetant prick?

What particularly pisses me off is that nine times out of ten grandad is actually younger than I am !

[Patrick]

Your defence is to ask the officer if he is certain that you were the driver? If so, how does he explain the registration on the car? How many people did he stop that day? That week? He must talk to many motorists each day, does he honestly remember each and every one of them? Three months later...?

How can he be certain you were the driver - it wasn't your car....?

Identity is not an issue that needs considering by the court when the ticket is handed at the time, for the reasons above. Seen that somewhere, buggered if I know where, but some snakes know it well......

[Winston001]

When he goes to court, make sure you help him out with legal expenses/court costs if he gets found not guilty(they will cost more than the original fine) and if found guilty... resulting fine WILL be greater than the original fine... PM timetoride for HIS bank account detail's, and wish him luck from me.

Hey FJ, lighten up. You are correct that with court costs, the fine is effectively doubled. All I have done is describe an approach to the problem and another member has said he always defends tickets. No big deal.

Lots of people read this type of thread without posting, so a bit of clear knowledge is not a bad thing.

I expect the original poster will pay his fine and that will be that.

[Winston001]

Identity is not an issue that needs considering by the court when the ticket is handed at the time, for the reasons above. Seen that somewhere, buggered if I know where, but some snakes know it well......

Fair enough and some officers are reasonably assiduous about identity at the time, thus making it easy from the witness box or on cross.

[Winston001]

Have ya ever thought of just waiting for a passing lane...geez it might hold you up all of 1 to 2 mins longer???...

Lol sorry bout all this...just got back from a 2 car mva ....very very lucky people.so me road safe side of me is still active.

Appreciate your point about road safety.

As for passing lanes - HA! I can only think of one set, south of Gore, in the whole of Southland. They simply don't exist down here and sod all in Otago. In fact passing lanes only appear north of Timaru in my experience.

[scumdog]

Appreciate your point about road safety.

As for passing lanes - HA! I can only think of one set, south of Gore, in the whole of Southland. They simply don't exist down here and sod all in Otago. In fact passing lanes only appear north of Timaru in my experience.

HEY!

We have two south of Riviera and three north of it!!

[Winston001]

HEY!

We have two south of Riviera and three north of it!!

Whut? That bloody steep hill on the south side doesn't count and...ok....I'll give you Clarks Junction. And the motorway. North and South. But thats it.

Nitpicker.....grumble mumblefarg....

[scumdog]

Whut? That bloody steep hill on the south side doesn't count and...ok....I'll give you Clarks Junction. And the motorway. North and South. But thats it.

Nitpicker.....grumble mumblefarg....

TWO within 4 km of the south of the Riviera

TWO within five km of the north (ok, in each occasion it's one for each direction)

PLUS one in town for each direction

AND the one at Clarkesville too!!

[MSTRS:Me]

When he goes to court, make sure you help him out with legal expenses/court costs if he gets found not guilty(they will cost more than the original fine) and if found guilty... resulting fine WILL be greater than the original fine... PM timetoride for HIS bank account detail's, and wish him luck from me.

Point to clarify. I thought the person/agency prosecuting the case pays costs if the charge is dismissed? ie - the defendent is liable only if found guilty.

[FJRider]

doubt if it will apply to timetoride though......

[RT527]

The trouble with that theory is that as soon as a passing lane appears grandad will invariable accelerate to 110kph. And them of course, slow back to 60 kph as soon as the road narrows. So whichever way, you can only get past him by exceeding the speed limit.

The "oh it will only hold you up for 1 or 2 minutes" is a total red herring. If I have 400 km to travel , and I can hold 100kph average, I'll be there in 4 hours. So, I can do whatever I have to do, and return , be home at a reasonable hour. If I am dropped to a 50kph avergae , due to being held up all the way by grandad and his myraid successors (it's not "just a minute or two", it's 10 or 15 minutes PER GRANDAD) , then it becomes an 8 hour trip. So now I can't get home that day (or if I do I'll be dead beat, and been driving for 16 ours, and that's certainly not safe).

So grandad's inconsiderate arrogance turns my there and back in a day into a two day trip. He costs me a day of my life (and I don't have that many left). Plus hotel and victualling costs for a night. Why should I suffer thus because he is an arrogant incompetant prick?

What particularly pisses me off is that nine times out of ten grandad is actually younger than I am !

haha you took it a little too literal.

It wasnt going to be a perfect example...and most grandads arnt traveling far, usually they going to the nearest town, but then that is a 4 hr trip down south...silly me sorry.