Tasers safe.. as long as you are in the police

[MSTRS:Me]

It's also uncommon enough that you can name specific cases too... Small price to pay.

Except when you are the innocent holee

[imdying]

Would you like me to start posting all the 'specific cases' that went largely unreported by the wider media due to being perpetrated by the NYPD in alleyways instead of by the Met in crowded subway stations?

Go nuts... when you can name enough cases to make up a figure that approaches 0.1% of their total arrest figures, I'll be interested.

I suppose you'd argue that it doesn't matter because the dead guys in NY were all niggers anyhow, and probably criminals of one sort or another, therefore no loss, etc?

No argument their.

The scenario is not unrealistic.

Unrealistic, unlikely, a bit fictional, it's just a label, doesn't change anything.

Lethally arming society's enforcement agents as a matter of course is a step that shouldn't be taken lightly, regardless of how many niggers you'd personally like to shoot.

I much prefer the current alternative of having an enforcement agency with no teeth whatsoever, that is working simply wonderfully for the country.

Except when you are the innocent holee

But of course... but you can't expect to run a war without casualties, that is unrealistic.

[jrandom]

Go nuts... when you can name enough cases to make up a figure that approaches 0.1% of their total arrest figures, I'll be interested.

So you're cool with the cops shooting whoever they want, so long as they kill less than one in a thousand of the people they arrest?

That's totally awesome, man. Totally awesome.

[The Stranger:Me]

Wonder how long before cops around here use them for sex toys.

Kinky!


I like you.

[imdying]

So you're cool with the cops shooting whoever they want, so long as they kill less than one in a thousand of the people they arrest?

That's totally awesome, man. Totally awesome.

You forget that they have to be black

[alanzs]

Lethally arming society's enforcement agents as a matter of course is a step that shouldn't be taken lightly, regardless of how many niggers you'd personally like to shoot.

I agree with you to arm them is not to be taken lightly. Guns are here whether we like it or not.

I don't for a second want the "comboy" mentality that many cops in the US have to be here, as I have had their guns pointed at me on a few occasions and it isn't fun at all. I didn't like it, but I understood why it happened.

[MSTRS:Me]

But of course... but you can't expect to run a war without casualties, that is unrealistic.

Ah...the old 'collateral' damage.
Well then...that makes it ok then.
But only if the victims of gung-ho cop behaviour are black. Right?

[imdying]

Ah...the old 'collateral' damage.
Well then...that makes it ok then.
But only if the victims of gung-ho cop behaviour are black. Right?

Well, that would be the ideal of course, but we'll run out of them eventually... spose we won't need police then though...

[Mumbles]

No...the second shot is in the ceiling....the "warning shot"!

Never fire the warning shot! that then leads to your actions being premeditated!!! and you don't need that

Whatever happened to the day that you just got a good clip around the ear? Seems we kiwis all become a bunch of . like its been said before come into my house (uninvited robbing scum) and you'll have to play by my rules and I'm not going to stop and ask for ya name


Give the police the training and the responsibility to do their job, if they fk it up then discipline them but if you don't want to get tasered or shot then you'd better behave

[alanzs]

Never fire the warning shot! that then leads to your actions being premeditated!!! and you don't need that

Give the police the training and the responsibility to do their job, if they fk it up then discipline them but if you don't want to get tasered or shot then you'd better behave

I have never had the misfortune to use a handgun against a person.

From ex-armed forces guys I have known, I was told your hand would probably be shaking and quivering and just hitting the person would be quite an accomplishment. But, again, I have never shot at someone and hope to keep it that way.

Make love not war....

[Ixion]

Yep... seen those little underage wankers thinking they're God's gift to whatever... Lippy to the copper... that's fine, keep mouthing off you little drop kick.... bzzzzzzt, fry you little fuck.

Which rather nicely encapsulates all the reasons cops should not have Tasers.

[Patrick]

Wonder how long before cops around here use them for sex toys.

Wotcha doin this weekend????

I don't mind the cops having Tazers if they are used only when necessary its the abuse of them that worries me, like when that cop had that guy handcuffed and lying on the ground at Abany stadium with about seven of his (the cops) mates standing around while hosing down the guy ( on the ground) with pepper spray.

Knowing the cop, knowing the event and knowing how TV3 so seriously and carefully edited the news piece you and the rest of NZ saw, the outcome was....??????

Oh yeah... "it was a whitewash..."

Griffin, you are out for a jog. You've just passed the Tui Glen Dairy when the cops arrive (armed holdup callout). They think you are the robber. Yell out to stop. You have no idea it's you they are talking to. Bang! One between the shoulder blades.
Still want them armed?

In NZ? The robber wouldn't be running. Would be too lazy to run.

Only one bang?

More like: Bang, Bang,Bang,Bang,Bang,Bang,Bang,click, reloading,Bang,Bang,Bang,Bang,Bang!

"Stop or I'll shoot".

Nah - that is the States and Oz. Here in NZ, it would be more like...

Shit... armed offender...!!! He is coming at me fast!!! Got my gun out now, so what do I do? "Stop or I will shoot" I yell.... Nope... still coming. Raising it to shoot me...

If I shoot, I will probably be criminally charged by the department. If I get off that, the family will take out a civil prosecution. Once that is over, the coroner will investigate all the proceedures, in hindsight, and will pick up on anything no matter how slight and the media will turn that into a news headline... again....

Then there is the paperwork... my own, then the statements with the lawyer present, then the endless visits to the lawyer, then the court hearings, the appeals perhaps, the internal investigations and their outcomes and directives...

The shithead families will have a go at harming my family because the NBR will name me before any hearing...

Oh....

Fuck....

He shot me...

Why didn't I shoot him?

Go figure....... Only in NZ.....

[Patrick]

Yep... seen those little underage wankers thinking they're God's gift to whatever... Lippy to the copper... that's fine, keep mouthing off you little drop kick.... bzzzzzzt, fry you little fuck.

The tazer is one last step removed from shooting.

Mouth off all you like. You are not gonna get fried.

[jrandom]

Wotcha doin this weekend????

I'd quite like to take the 5-second Taser ride. Just out of curiosity.

Are you allowed to shoot up any of your mates who want a go, or does the cost of filing the Tasercam footage, etc, mean that you'd get in trouble if you did?

[Patar]

The tazer is one last step removed from shooting.

Mouth off all you like. You are not gonna get fried.

Mouth off all you like and you'll be done for disorderly conduct, and then the little shits will resist arrest and then bzzzt. I would rather have a cop end a dispute decisively with a tazer than have it escalate into a full blown fist fight.

Lets face it, if there is someone that a cop can't subdue by themselves, then chances are they won't sustain any damage from a tazer shot. Maybe, just maybe, the next time they will cooperate.


(I don't know the stats, but I don't think anyone has died directly as a result of a tazer shot)