Can you get off a speeding ticket for incorrect information?

[Lias]

What particularly pisses me off is that nine times out of ten grandad is actually younger than I am !

I read the first grandad reference and was all ready to find a picture of a kettle for you :-)

[Ixion]

I read the first grandad reference and was all ready to find a picture of a kettle for you :-)

I have a kettle. And the grandads annoy her particularly. Riding a big two smoker slowly is no fun at all.

Not to mention the stupid old fool down the road who called the fire brigade when I was just clearing my crankcases.

[Horse]

The trouble with that theory is that as soon as a passing lane appears grandad will invariable accelerate to 110kph. And them of course, slow back to 60 kph as soon as the road narrows. So whichever way, you can only get past him by exceeding the speed limit.

Quoted For Truth.

In this neck of the woods, in which I'm frequently driving around mid-day in the work cage, this happens All The Freaking Time.

[vinnieh]

Hey, just my two cents worth:

I live with two traffic cops and I have had some great chats with them. They are actually pretty good guys. His advice to me was that if I ever get pulled up, act as GUTTED as you can about the ticket, just go like "How much sir? $180!?! Awww man SHIT... gutted that sucks. Oh shit. Sorry man. Shit gutted." Throw your head back on the seat head rest and close your eyes like you have a severe headache and act a bit dramatic, but not too much. Obviously if you are driving a flash vehicle you won't get let off but yeah. So act real polite to the officer even though it sucks. Treat him like a friend and say Cheers mate to him, and he will walk off feeling like a real prick for ticketing a nice guy.

My cop flatmate who told me this said that they will ALWAYS ticket impolite assholes and quite often they will throw away their ticket stub because they feel bad about "being a twat" (They are english.)
I got off a $80 and $270 ticket from doing that, as well as a $400 ticket for carrying passengers on my learners which was a few years ago.

Moral of the story: don't pay your ticket until the reminder comes and always be nice to traffic cops, even if they are power tripping arseholes.

[Patrick]

Hey, just my two cents worth:

I live with two traffic cops and I have had some great chats with them. They are actually pretty good guys. His advice to me was that if I ever get pulled up, act as GUTTED as you can about the ticket, just go like "How much sir? $180!?! Awww man SHIT... gutted that sucks. Oh shit. Sorry man. Shit gutted." Throw your head back on the seat head rest and close your eyes like you have a severe headache and act a bit dramatic, but not too much. Obviously if you are driving a flash vehicle you won't get let off but yeah. So act real polite to the officer even though it sucks. Treat him like a friend and say Cheers mate to him, and he will walk off feeling like a real prick for ticketing a nice guy.

My cop flatmate who told me this said that they will ALWAYS ticket impolite assholes and quite often they will throw away their ticket stub because they feel bad about "being a twat" (They are english.)
I got off a $80 and $270 ticket from doing that, as well as a $400 ticket for carrying passengers on my learners which was a few years ago.

Moral of the story: don't pay your ticket until the reminder comes and always be nice to traffic cops, even if they are power tripping arseholes.

Funny post. Except about the cop throwing away the ticket stub part. They are numbered and accountable, each book signed out to one officer and that officer must account for all tickets in that book (usually they are forwarded as "issued, to be paid" or "cancelled, due to a cock up or another......)

[vinnieh]

Funny post. Except about the cop throwing away the ticket stub part. They are numbered and accountable, each book signed out to one officer and that officer must account for all tickets in that book (usually they are forwarded as "issued, to be paid" or "cancelled, due to a cock up or another......)

I might have to ask my flattie what he meant when he told me that story. I don't think he meant that he threw away the whole book, maybe just tore out the ticket he wrote? I'm not sure, but for my $80 and $270 tickets I waited for the reminders which never came. For my $400 one I wrote a massive sob story to wellington about the ticket and they sent me a letter back that just said something along the lines of "That ticket has not been submitted by the officer, please wait for the reminder letter before writing your explanation." I never got a reminder.

Incidentally, the cop who fined me $400 was what I thought a real asshole prick, he initially told me he was going to fine me $10,000 for being an unlicensed taxi driver (because my explanation was that I was giving my drunk mates a lift home), then he reduced it down to $400 for each passenger plus another $400 for driving after curfew, which came out at $1800. After he told me that, he ripped his ticket book out of his pocket with a really assholy flourish which only the Waikato Highway Patrol can pull off , and began writing the ticket, and wouldn't answer me about how much he was docking me for until he was done writing it, which took forever cause as he was writing it he asked each of my passengers what their names were, where they lived and if their parents knew they were out.

Following that terrible night, I went for and passed my full license the next week. Although turns out that fat bastard was actually one of the good ones because I think he let me off, unless he wrote out the ticket wrong.

[Bonmaklad]

i've known people get off of tickets because the pc forgot to put his name in, i've known bugulars get away with stealing because the police officer wasn't allowed to search them in time, i've known people get away with murder because jury need to agree and they can't.

The Law has so many loop holes we all love it when we get away with a ticket but then we all moan when the kiddy fidlers are back on the street.


I would personally pay it, you were in the wrong.

[scumdog]

i've known people get off of tickets because the pc forgot to put his name in, i've known bugulars get away with stealing because the police officer wasn't allowed to search them in time, i've known people get away with murder because jury need to agree and they can't.

The Law has so many loop holes we all love it when we get away with a ticket but then we all moan when the kiddy fidlers are back on the street.


I would personally pay it, you were in the wrong.

Sheesh, the KB lynch-mob will be pounding after YOU!!!

But good post.

[Korumba]

Just get a personalized plate to display the incorrect numbers and letters on the ticket and then you can happily pay in full!!!

[Max Preload]

The Law has so many loop holes we all love it when we get away with a ticket but then we all moan when the kiddy fiddlers are back on the street.

Wow. So now 'speeders' are as bad as kiddie fiddlers? Is that you Knackstead?

[discotex]

Ok hypothetical question....

Assuming name, date and rego are correct but license number has been recorded as your license class is it worth a try?

One would assume license number is something that must be correct like the date.

[davereid]

Ok hypothetical question....

Assuming name, date and rego are correct but license number has been recorded as your license class is it worth a try?

One would assume license number is something that must be correct like the date.

A ticket is merely an invitation from the police to admit the offence, pay the (default) penalty and get on with your life.

Any error on a ticket that may cause the police trouble in court - like saying you were speeding on the 33rd of August is useful.

You don't ever GET OFF a ticket, all that happens is the police decide not to prosecute as the evidence is unlikely to prove the charge

But you should take every ticket to court.

Cops like to say " It doesnt bother us, we get paid, you lose a day off work.. you will get to pay court costs" etc etc.

But it is all about money.

In more that 1/3 of defended court hearings you will win.

You don't need to prove you are innocent. You don't need to prove the cop is dishonest, unreliable, or wrong.

All you need need to show is that there is reasonable doubt. About his use of the gear, his training, his identification of you as the culprit etc etc.

And, its all in your favour.

You get disclosure of his evidence against you. You dont need to provide any details of your defence.

If you ask for disclosure of something and the police don't provide it, then they havegiven ou an out.

Its costs them heaps. Half a day away from patrol. The boss may say he is OK about it, but he won't met his ticket quota that day.

Best of all ?

The cop wants a god work story to tell his mates.

Being cross examined in front of a judge, and made to look like a half wit, by an alledged speeder that he is not allowed to cross examine, doesnt count.

Even if you lose, even if you ad court costs, the fine is often lower that the ticket.

Bjut we all win.

[scumdog]

Yup, them defended hearing are a giggle - 'speshly the ones where the dude defends himself using info gleaned from L A Law or similar...

[Matt_TG]

Denny Crane?

[jase the ace]

hi, i would simply advise the matter is to be defended. say no more until it comes up to court when you receive a summons . when cross examining the cop ask him what he does in order to pass another vehicle . say the car in front was doing 95kph. would he slowly pass so as not to exceed the limit or pass as quickly as poss. to get back to the left side of the road . obviously the longer u are on the wrongside of the road the more danger of a head on collision . the number one rule is to keep left . ask him what his previous occupation was . remember not all law enforcement guys are honest some have even been rapists . he may even have some convictions himself ..(ask him ) how long has he been in the job .... cheers