MNZ announces Motards back in F3!

[JJ58]

Has anyone looked at the WERA site to see what won the lightweight super sport and lwt superbike class at the Grattan NC?....... It was a dude on a Aprillia SXV..... Just an interesting fact. I think the dude is leading the lwt superbike class in overall points (or something like that).....

[vtec]

I'm starting to find the motards extremely appealing, a lot of fun to ride, it's hard to get it wrong on them. Plus I want to learn how to maintain powerslides, and there's nothing better for it than a motard. I'm not swinging either way to banning them in F3 or anything, but I think an SXV550 in F3 would clean up the 400's. And on a tight circuit like the Taupo club circuit they would clean up the 650's too. Amazing punch out of the corners.

[xwhatsit]

SXV550 in F3

Do it right at least!

[Kickaha]

Spot on Tony. The yuppies on Motards should just fuck off into their own class. End of. MNZ bunch of arse.

It's not the fault of MNZ the riders were to apathetic to bother submitting something about this when MNZ asked for it and would rather just whine about it afterwards

[svr]

Hey SVR

Where the hell do you get your prices from that you are suggesting it costs to build a competitive tricked out SV mate?

The numbers you are talking a very very very silly

An F3 SV:
bike 10k front end 2 ttx shock 3 cartridges 3 wheels 3 fairings 1 brakes 1 cams 1 pistons 0.5 valves 0.5 rods 1 porting 1 pipe 2 power commander 0.5 crank work 1 etc.
oh thats well over 30k without labour, spares, slipper clutch, dyno time etc. etc.

Hmmm makes 600 production look good - could go lots faster for half the money and less maintenance....

[scracha]

It's not the fault of MNZ the riders were to apathetic to bother submitting something about this when MNZ asked for it and would rather just whine about it afterwards

Asked for it where? Oh yes, I forgot about the excellent communications channels that MNZ have.

Hey lets be fair and reasonable!

Oh C'mon...it's an Internet forum. Fair and reasonable have no place here.

Bring it ya scottish git, you me and the track
BWAAAAHHH

See..KB's biggest Yuppie.

I rest my case

[Kickaha]

Discussion on it here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=75283

It was originally in racing and was moved when the Motard forum was opened

It was also posted on the MNZ website

If you don't check the MNZ website and keep up to date with whats happening you've go no one to blame but yourselves when stuff goes through you don't agree with

Or you could just pass the buck and blame MNZ

[scracha]

MNZ site...no dates, misleading article titles and little categorisation between general news/motoX/road racing articles/links necessitates trawling every article (including the broken menu links). The site is gradually getting better though.

Forum you link to....pretty much majority of F3 riders still express the fact that they don't want motards in with them but this is clearly ignored.

Would mention of this proposal at the trackside for those participating with F3 bikes / motards not have been a sensible idea?

That said, they do seem to have listened to comments about motords taking very different lines and backing it in (big style) mid-corner so as long as they're enforced then perhaps it will all work out.

[blueblade]

Is it a major job shortening the travel and lowering motard suspension? The US riders replace the front-ends and buy new shocks, which seems fairly expensive.

No, its not a major. Talk to Lyndon from Boyds. He has done quite a few.

[Robert Taylor]

No, its not a major. Talk to Lyndon from Boyds. He has done quite a few.

Its not a major shortening but I beg to differ in as much as substanial improvements could be effected with damping, and I dont just mean by revalving ( itself a misunderstood term ) Addressing the rake and trail issue would also result in faster corner speeds and more precise steering

[roadracingoldfart]

Bring it ya scottish git, you me and the track

BWAAAAHHH

Bring it onnnnn. and ill let Stevie take ya out on my CBR hehehehe

[blueblade]

No argument there. Shortening was the easy bit. Getting the damping right was another matter altogether.

[Shaun]

An F3 SV:
bike 10k front end 2 ttx shock 3 cartridges 3 wheels 3 fairings 1 brakes 1 cams 1 pistons 0.5 valves 0.5 rods 1 porting 1 pipe 2 power commander 0.5 crank work 1 etc.
oh thats well over 30k without labour, spares, slipper clutch, dyno time etc. etc.

Hmmm makes 600 production look good - could go lots faster for half the money and less maintenance....

That is NOT ONE BIKE!!! That is bike and a shit load of spares in case of crashes

I can and do build, 03 sv motor and chassis and electrics, power commander, Arrow race pipe, foot peg kit, Full race body work, 06-07 GSXR front end ( STD) and Penske Rear shock NEW! Stearing damper.

Bike is not road regiserable as they are NOT standard Legal for the road, and have NO road parts
for $12-500


The first one I built in 05, ONLY HAD STOCK STD ENGINE, and a rider that had NOT raced prior to Puckekohe round, and he ended up running as high as 3rd position in the GP race IN CH-CH, SO it is not just about a fast tuned motor, it is more about a well set up chassis package, and riders tTRUE abbility

Sorry to seem to be hassling you, BUT YOUR POST RE COSTS, IS A REAL SCARE OFF for People who know NO BETTER.

$12-500 as above can be supplied.

[svr]

That is NOT ONE BIKE!!! That is bike and a shit load of spares in case of crashes

I can and do build, 03 sv motor and chassis and electrics, power commander, Arrow race pipe, foot peg kit, Full race body work, 06-07 GSXR front end ( STD) and Penske Rear shock NEW! Stearing damper.

Bike is not road regiserable as they are NOT standard Legal for the road, and have NO road parts
for $12-500


The first one I built in 05, ONLY HAD STOCK STD ENGINE, and a rider that had NOT raced prior to Puckekohe round, and he ended up running as high as 3rd position in the GP race IN CH-CH, SO it is not just about a fast tuned motor, it is more about a well set up chassis package, and riders tTRUE abbility

Sorry to seem to be hassling you, BUT YOUR POST RE COSTS, IS A REAL SCARE OFF for People who know NO BETTER.

$12-500 as above can be supplied.

We are talking about different things. I've mentioned elsewhere that you can ride an F3 bike for as little as $1500, or, if you want to build a bike like say Terry Fitz's or GW's it will cost the average punter about 30k. It would also cost a shitload to get your bike (an ideal club racing F3 bike) to that level. Sure with a very good rider your bike might `run as high as third' on a twisty track, but that's not the same as being on equal equipment, which was my point.

[Shaun]

We are talking about different things. I've mentioned elsewhere that you can ride an F3 bike for as little as $1500, or, if you want to build a bike like say Terry Fitz's or GW's it will cost the average punter about 30k. It would also cost a shitload to get your bike (an ideal club racing F3 bike) to that level. Sure with a very good rider your bike might `run as high as third' on a twisty track, but that's not the same as being on equal equipment, which was my point.

We are NOT talking about things- YOU are NOT sticking to the SV $ value part of it, that it is all, you are wondering around having a dribble and putting people of the idea of a TRUE SV F3 bike, USING the $ numbers you have posted, WHICH IS TOTALLY WRONG!



Read your own posts on this subject, and read my replies RE what I CAN! and HAVE AND DO SUPPLY FOR WHAT VALUE RE SV650

My dealis $12-500 less engine performance work
approx $5000
Forkkit
approx $1500-00

LESS THAN 20K for a true serious Terry Fitz = bike

carry on driver