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    Thanks captain obvious.
    I didn't say it had to be that way I was merely sharing the fact that some are like that.

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    Hmmm a perfectly adjusted clutch cable... where you can't pull the clutch right in because it snaps...

    That sounds perfectly imperfect to me

    And, how can one pull the clutch lever in sooo hard that it snaps a brand new cable?

    Was it popeye who owned up?

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    superoxide and any other apparent newbies, do read all of this.

    Quote Originally Posted by teamsuperoxide View Post
    To disengage the clutch you only need to pull the lever in a little way, if you squeeze it all the way to the handle its way way too far. I'm not familiar with other bikes but I've only had to squeeze the lever about half in to reach the limit of what the clutch can move so that squeezing the lever to the rubber of the handle repeditively will eventally break the cable. And if you say I've adjusted it wrong than every mechanic who has ever adjust the clutch for me is wrong too.
    now i'm assuming that your bike isn't a particularly poorly designed machine here:

    every mechanic who's ever adjusted it is either incompetent or thought you wanted it that way, or both (they should have asked).

    the lever should come right back to the handle and have a few millimetres play in the cable which you won't have unless you've got the wrong cable fitted.

    the clutch may disengage anywhere along that travel to the handle.
    on my dirtbikes a half pull is typically all that is required, but some road bikes tend to "drag" a bit at max travel due to wear or design or too much slack

    by having the cable permanently tensioned it's a miracle that your clutch isn't slipping and the cable lasted as long as it has.

    it would've broken with or without interference - either on it's own or as soon as you went to leave that day. if i was you i'd tell the "culprit" not to worry about it

    it very likely the fitted cable is too short for the bike and the setting provided was the best they could get, again a typical bike shop fuck up that a newbie owner might not pick up on. this is something you should have been told about by the shop/mechanic and is why i typically dislike mechanics who are vague in explaining what they've "fixed", especially when the bike later breaks in an unreasonably short timeframe.

    my "new" bike i got from red baron had the clutch adjusted so that putting her in 1st would stall the bike - mechanics are very capable of fucking up. i've got her to a usable state but will be taking her back to get it rectified at their cost as i cbf taking fairings off to adjust at the clutch end of things.

    I'd suggest you do the same.

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    and from teh other thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by teamsuperoxide View Post
    Hey guys,
    The clutch cable on my 2003 Suzuki GX125 was broken yesterday by someone playing on my bike while I was working. I know its not a big deal to get a new one made but when I went to get a new one made I was told that the cable housing (if thats the right term) had been damage so that the cable sticks inside and a new cable can't be treaded through. Does that sound possible? I thought I kept it well oiled. The mechanic suggested I get a replacement but since my bike is a dodgy Chinese made Suzuki its likely to be 6 weeks to get the parts shipped over.
    Is there a place in Auckland that could make me a new cable + cable housing? And for how much?
    outer was shagged?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamsuperoxide
    It was a new cable, greased to hell, adjusted perfectly and pulling smooth. A weld failed due to extreme mechanical stress cause by someone pulling in the clutch beyond its normal travel.
    ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    If the outer is shagged, put another outer on it. Get a new mechanic though... if they can't manage that, they're not much of a mechanic.
    +1

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    by having the cable permanently tensioned it's a miracle that your clutch isn't slipping and the cable lasted as long as it has.

    it would've broken with or without interference - either on it's own or as soon as you went to leave that day. if i was you i'd tell the "culprit" not to worry about it
    So you have ridden my bike? Inspected the clutch cable? Or should you be on Sensing Murder?

    It wasn't under permanent tension. It wouldn't have broken if some hadn't decided to play with it on Friday. The cable was the correct length. The outer wasn't shagged until it was damage on Friday at the same time the cable broke.

    And for you people who have literacy problems, what broke was the weld on the little nipple thing at the end of the cable. I posted that earlier. The cable had been made for me by the guy at Atomic, hence it wasn't as strong as a proper cable to begin with. When I went back there on Saturday to get him to weld it back on he couldn't so decide to make a new one and that is when we found that something was wrong with the outer, the old cable was extremely difficult to get out and a new one couldn't be threaded through. Did I not make that clear when I first posted it?

    Thankfully rather than speculating if or what I had done something wrong some of you had actually tried to help and I thank those few whole heartedly.

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    now i'm assuming that your bike isn't a particularly poorly designed machine here:
    Its a Suzuki GX125......... it's beyond poorly designed.

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    I don't think that the little solder joint that holds the nipple on should ever just fail, especially only from the force that somebody can put on it with their fingers. I don't know anything about the quality of cables that the guy at Atomic Wreckers makes, but if that's what pulled out then it can't have been a very well-made cable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teamsuperoxide View Post
    To disengage the clutch you only need to pull the lever in a little way, if you squeeze it all the way to the handle its way way too far. I'm not familiar with other bikes but I've only had to squeeze the lever about half in to reach the limit of what the clutch can move so that squeezing the lever to the rubber of the handle repeditively will eventally break the cable. And if you say I've adjusted it wrong than every mechanic who has ever adjust the clutch for me is wrong too.
    Every mechanic who has ever adjust the clutch for you is wrong too
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    the quote thing is not worrking..darrnit..
    For those of you whose use the fast lane on motorways and only do a 100km/hr, can you pls use the middle lane, some of us like to ride at 105km/hr thank you very much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teamsuperoxide View Post
    So you have ridden my bike? Inspected the clutch cable? Or should you be on Sensing Murder?
    what i was going to say was tat andrew is very knowledgeable when it comes to bikes. and he does make sense abt the clutch cable. btw im not taking sides or anything, just merely stating tat i always listen to andrew's advice..
    For those of you whose use the fast lane on motorways and only do a 100km/hr, can you pls use the middle lane, some of us like to ride at 105km/hr thank you very much.

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    Phoar, this threads going off like andrews mum when he got teh riffer





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    Somewhere i have read 'Who USES the clutch?!?!'

    I think everyone - in order to have an alternative to their clutch should it break when perfectly installed and adjusted and brand new - should learn how to do a 3minute balanced stoppy at lights/around corners while parking, or work on their inner thigh muscles/gluteals and calf raises to squeeze the bike and lift the rear wheel with their calves. These would mean the back wheel will be allowed to keep rotating at engine idle speed and so not have to flick into Neutral...chicks dig that stuff. it worked-ish for Nacho Libre yar?

    That said...
    If it snapped with a couple 'tuff' tugs, im a guessing that it was on its way to busting after a few 'normal' tugs i.e. on the way home? (seriously...correct me if im wrong)
    I would have thought the broken clutch bike owner may have been happy that their clutch was busted in a parked position, rather than while ridin on their way home.

    Unless 'culprit' did some exceedingly stressful maneouver with their wrist and clutch... AND owned up? Whoah... faith in humanity restored...ish. Oh who am i kidding hell no.

    Without getting into the technicalities of mechanical functios of a bike clutch... i would suggest listening to the postings of a person who has pretty decent rep. (as you can see from mine, no i am not talking about meself...)

    Dont think its Andrew's mum who will be giving someone a damn good hurting tonight, but rather complainants momma fending for her offspring. Oooh... maybe we can get both mommas fending for their darlins?

    Ahhhh...are the aforementioned mommas milfs? we could even get them to meet (maybe in a jelly pool) and have the ensuing fracas all on video and...oooh...mmmm...ahhhh.. bugger, i think i gotta go clean myself up. Shouldn't be doin this at work...
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    Quote Originally Posted by teamsuperoxide View Post
    So you have ridden my bike? Inspected the clutch cable? Or should you be on Sensing Murder?

    It wasn't under permanent tension. It wouldn't have broken if some hadn't decided to play with it on Friday. The cable was the correct length. The outer wasn't shagged until it was damage on Friday at the same time the cable broke.

    And for you people who have literacy problems, what broke was the weld on the little nipple thing at the end of the cable. I posted that earlier. The cable had been made for me by the guy at Atomic, hence it wasn't as strong as a proper cable to begin with. When I went back there on Saturday to get him to weld it back on he couldn't so decide to make a new one and that is when we found that something was wrong with the outer, the old cable was extremely difficult to get out and a new one couldn't be threaded through. Did I not make that clear when I first posted it?

    Thankfully rather than speculating if or what I had done something wrong some of you had actually tried to help and I thank those few whole heartedly.
    Dude, don't you understand that the clutch was fucked up and whoever owned up to "playing" with it should not owe you anything if all he did was pull the clutch right in.

    We may have literacy problems but mate I think you need a tampon.

    Tried to help with what? All you've done is bitch on the net cause you think someone broke your bike.

    We don't need to have inspected your bike as you have told us that your clutch doesn't pull back to the bar, which means it's obviously fucked up in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teamsuperoxide View Post
    You are the dumbarse. It was a new cable, greased to hell, adjusted perfectly and pulling smooth. A weld failed due to extreme mechanical stress cause by someone pulling in the clutch beyond its normal travel.
    The cable plus housing will need to be replaced. $$$
    so the clutch pull rack and pinion is not timed correctly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingrob View Post
    Dude, don't you understand that the clutch was fucked up and whoever owned up to "playing" with it should not owe you anything if all he did was pull the clutch right in.

    We may have literacy problems but mate I think you need a tampon.

    Tried to help with what? All you've done is bitch on the net cause you think someone broke your bike.

    We don't need to have inspected your bike as you have told us that your clutch doesn't pull back to the bar, which means it's obviously fucked up in the first place.
    i can see him rearing up in preparation of a roundhouse!!! ruuuuuuuun NOOOOB, RUUUUUUUUUUN!!!!!!!!

    EDIT: oh and i agree with andrew and all those that agree with agreeing with andrew think someone may have accidentally saved your life....or at least from harm....pm me the person's name/number and ill go buy that person a well-deserved beer
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