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    i love motorways, best place to go fuckin fast. nobody pulls out on to the road without some warning, never seen a possum, head-ons are unlikely.
    im keen as to give it a go.
    it still has corners, they are just boring unless you are pulling over 200.
    also a great chance to set a speed record from hm to aucks.

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    Well, firstly lets get straight what this toll is to cover, it is to help cover the cost of construction. Basically what we need to decide on is which way is the best way to distribute the toll amongst motorists overall.
    I think we all agree on the point that people should be tolled based on how many times they use it. How would you distribute the toll? Here are some examples of ways you could calculate the tolls.
    • Weight/Size of Vehicle - Would not be fair as this toll is to cover the contruction and having a heavy vehicle does not make the construction more expensive. We also want to encourage trucks to use the new highway as they were a main cause of problems on the old road.
    • Number of Occupants - Making the toll per person would be a bad idea as it discourages car-pooling and buses, second it would be quite difficult to enforce and also it does not take into account different ages.
    • Per Vehicle - By far the best system, this way the toll is most evenly distributed amongst motorists and the amount of convinience they receive. It is the most simple to calculate and enforce, encourages car-pooling, eases congestion on other roads as trucks can still use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by renegade master View Post
    i want to get a group ride of 250s who will just nail it down the tunnel. It will sound like heaven!
    I`ve ridden through a swarm of bees Scotty, and it just sounded like a thousand bees getting killed by me and my screen, duh,duh times a thousand. Sorry that would make it 2000 bees,fuck the xtra duh


    As for the toll , As a protest I`m gonna duplicate someone elses plate and ride past the barrier arms, Hey Renegade , whats your rego bro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtzzr View Post
    I`ve ridden through a swarm of bees Scotty, and it just sounded like a thousand bees getting killed by me and my screen, duh,duh times a thousand. Sorry that would make it 2000 bees,fuck the xtra duh


    As for the toll , As a protest I`m gonna duplicate someone elses plate and ride past the barrier arms, Hey Renegade , whats your rego bro?
    70uni..... why?
    Then I could get a Kb Tshirt, move to Timaru and become a full time crossdressing faggot

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    I am surprised no one has commented on the main reason not to use it.

    The tolls will be checked by cameras, mounted at each end. They state that the cameras will take photos of front and back. And the cameras automatically read your number plate.

    So, at the beginning of this stretch of road, which has no exits or entrances , there is a camera recording your number plate. And , no doubt the date and time . A known number of kilometres later, another camera records your number plate. And, no doubt, the date and time.

    You ncan see where this is going, can't you ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post

    You ncan see where this is going, can't you ?
    An un policed stretch of road for high speed runs and picnics on the roadside?

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    Ixion

    The tolling cameras are only at the south end of the motorway, so once you're through that's it. However, they do collect in both directions.

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redline_8749 View Post
    your avatar is awesome.

    I can't comment, but if I travel up that way, I'd rather take the scenic road
    Thanx, some bling would be nice.
    Go Coops

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    also, they are operated by transit (or whatever the new name is) not the police.

    The motorway has traffic monitering cameras every 500m or so - and they dont give out tickets.
    Then I could get a Kb Tshirt, move to Timaru and become a full time crossdressing faggot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder View Post
    No it wont. The Harbour bridge was state funded. Road tolls are part of a privitisation deal. Once the road has paid it's way it's all profit. The toll will not come off. Maintance will be paid for by increasing the toll. The bottom line on this is that Kiwis will be required to pay too travel on roads in their own country. Most likely to overseas companies.

    Skyryder
    and Labour continue try to stir up fear about privatisation of infrastructure if National get elected.....

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    Why should people who have chosen to live up north have to pay a toll every day to go back and forth. Thats not fair. I'm surprised that Maha and Mom are so accepting to pay the toll!!

    With the Harbour Bridge there was no fuel tax (specifically for roading projects) and a percentage of your vehicle rego wasnt used for roading projects so you can understand why a toll was imposed, which stopped once it was payed for.

    No...the truckies can use the toll road which will be a lot more economical for them, us and the country/economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waxxa View Post
    Why should people who have chosen to live up north have to pay a toll every day to go back and forth. Thats not fair...
    They don't. For every Toll Road there must be a free alternative which in this case is the current SH1
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    http://www.voxy.co.nz/national/north...ng-date/5/7284

    6 January 2009 - The NZ Transport Agency today announced that the SH1 Northern Gateway Toll Road will open on Sunday, 25 January, 2009, some two months ahead of schedule.
    The toll tariffs on opening day will be $2 for cars and light commercial vehicles, and $4 for heavy vehicles. There were no additional charges for trailers or caravans. The toll for motorcycles was currently set at zero, but may be subject to review.
    I only posted this because of the global economic crisis

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    Success!
    Good thing all you guys wrote in letters to get this changed.
    Oh wait...

    So who's going to organise a ride for us to all go through the tunnels at once?

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    The current $0 toll for bikes may be reviewed- as in "if you hammer along, we'll start charging you lot" or dependent on if it's actually worth charging?

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