Lane splitting at motorway on-ramps with lights?

[NC]

no and no.

infact you should never lane split.

better sell your bike actually.

also never speed.

:slap:

TL1000R for Sale

[Ragingrob]

Ah. The truck lane. That's technically different to the priority lane. The priority lane is defined in law. The truck lane is a Transit invention. Using it would be the same as lane splitting. Probably noone cares but if a cop gets shitty you can't tell him piss off I am legally entitled to use this lane (as you can on the priority lane).

As far as I know (unless Transhit is now really splitting hairs) T2 IS a priority lane...

onramp lanes... its a priority lane, lanes on the actual motorway, pass... illegal to travel in bus lanes

Hmmm will be using that onramp tomo evening, I'll have a good look to see if it says "truck only" like the "bus only" lanes on the motorway, or if it says "truck lane" like the "bus lanes" in the suburbs. Truck only would therefore follow along the lines of the motorway bus only lanes and be illegal for other auto use.

[Sam I Am]

my mate got done for lane spliting on my bike while he was going on to the motorway in town, the cop was parked up taking bike plates all right through rush hour... bastard

[OutForADuck]

Cool question and good answers, thanks guys. I always feel a little like the guy pushing in at the queue when I do this.... But hell I am the guy pushing in at the queue

[xwhatsit]

Cool question and good answers, thanks guys. I always feel a little like the guy pushing in at the queue when I do this.... But hell I am the guy pushing in at the queue

I don't see it like that, it's not like you hold them up. You're already halfway up the onramp by the time they've woken up, released the handbrake and found first gear. Just slowly roll down between the cars as you get near the front, as soon as the light goes green, grab a handful of throttle. Not recommended practice at normal traffic lights because of red light runners, but you don't have to worry about that with the onramps of course

And that's how you pull a wheelie on somebody else's CB400N (er... Magua... not your bike of course ).

[vifferman]

my mate got done for lane spliting on my bike while he was going on to the motorway in town, the cop was parked up taking bike plates all right through rush hour... bastard

WTF is the point of that? How does ticketing bikes for lane-splitting aid road safety?

[CookMySock]

my mate got done for lane spliting on my bike while he was going on to the motorway in town, the cop was parked up taking bike plates all right through rush hour... bastard

This is a good example of a fine that you do not pay.

Steve

[Katman]

but my story could have been complete bullshit.

I'm surprised it wasn't.

[CookMySock]

I'm surprised it wasn't.

Troll, ignore.

[nodrog:Me]

you guys think too much, worry about it if you get pulled over.

[madbikeboy]

I dont even stop for those lights. I lane-split and keep going. My belief is that it is safer for me on a mbike to keep moving than stay in queue and risk some cager not paying attention (txt) and bang into me.

The T2 lanes (not priority/multi-occupant lanes) which are being introduced to our motorways are illegal for motorbikes, I believe.

Me too, I just roll through, and I do it assertively, I don't add to the traffic density, as a motorcyclist I reduce the traffic density. Sitting between cars is a bad idea and to be avoided. I rolled past a cop about 2 months ago, and gave him a nice little wave as I went past, no issue, I was expecting the red and blues to light up.

As for Bus lanes etc. On the Shore, you're not allowed to use them. But I use them anyhow because being physically seperated from cars means I live longer (so fuck the consequences). Occasionally I get a telling off from the cops, but if you're polite and rational about why and wherefore, they normally tell you stop doing it and little else.

You may think that it's a massive oversight, but the real reason that ARTA (not transit) force bikes off the bus lane is because of "danger" and because the real intent of ARTA is to get people into buses by force. I agree with the principle, and if you look around at a person per cage, the bus argument would have merit (assuming that they ran on time, there was parking at the bus stops, and the cost was near reasonable). When I'm overseas, I almost exclusively use public transport for CBD stuff (SF, Melbourne, Sydney, LA even) - but here, the bus system would necessitate 3 changes of bus for me. And a lotto win to pay for it.

BTW, I heard that sentiment from ARTA direct, in a previous role I worked on the SmartBus system (the neat little signs that tell you how long you need to wait).

[xwhatsit]

/BTW, I heard that sentiment from ARTA direct, in a previous role I worked on the SmartBus system (the neat little signs that tell you how long you need to wait).

/* Oh cool! How do those work? GPS within the buses broadcasting position on radio, or do they trigger something off in the signs as they go past (and the system knows which signs belong to which route)? I'm going to guess GPS as it seems to get confused when the bus has to go around a 90-degree corner before it gets to where you're waiting (i.e. measures as the crow flies).

That would've been fun to have a go at that. */

I might just go through the red now, seeing all your other evil baby killers are doing it and getting away with it.

[madbikeboy]

/* Oh cool! How do those work? GPS within the buses broadcasting position on radio, or do they trigger something off in the signs as they go past (and the system knows which signs belong to which route)? I'm going to guess GPS as it seems to get confused when the bus has to go around a 90-degree corner before it gets to where you're waiting (i.e. measures as the crow flies).

That would've been fun to have a go at that. */

I might just go through the red now, seeing all your other evil baby killers are doing it and getting away with it.

Telemetry device on each bus, plotted along a course using the Vodafone GPRS network. Can't recall if it's using GPS or gantries, think GPS. There is a lot of intelligence as the system behind uses normalising to work out what the delay time is based on traffic. The guys who came up with the system are pretty bright. I was on the Vodafone side providing network.

Don't ever run reds! Only on-ramps. So, hardly ever run Reds!

I watched an inexperienced rider accelerate to catch the lights at the end of Constellation last night, he braked really late and deep (in the center of the lane where all the buses drop diesel), then he turned into the corner at warp nine (without checking to his right to see if he was about to get nailed), and then he ran the next intersection at warp nine (forgetting about the traffic and the cops who use that intersection as the cop shop is right next to it). The halo of invincibility that youth provides, I wish I had it. Did I mention casual shoes, jeans etc?

[xwhatsit]

Don't ever run reds! Only on-ramps. So, hardly ever run Reds!

But of course. Nevertheless I'm sure they still count as `proper' reds -- hence a beating with a nightstick if you get caught I suppose.

I go through there all the time when I catch up with Miss Xwhatsit. At night, it doesn't matter how quickly you zip through there, if there's no vehicle to trigger the lights, it won't go green.

Apart from that, it could've been me. I'm an inexperienced rider, wearing normal jeans just to piss off MBB. Almost got nailed by a u-turner on Symonds St Monday too

[PirateJafa]

Apart from that, it could've been me. I'm an inexperienced rider, wearing normal jeans just to piss off MBB. Almost got nailed by a u-turner on Symonds St Monday too

Now now Xerxesmawhatchamacallit, there's a difference between "slow" and "inexperienced".