Police admit shooting innocent 17-year-old

**Ixion** · 25th January 2009, 20:48

We may (and should) condemn the police when they do something unbefitting their position (break the rules, etc); or when they are negligent; or when they are just pig-arse stupid. NAd when they do any of these things I will be among the first to condemn. I expect very high standard of those who exercise the Royal prerogative

I have not seen anything about this tragic occurence that persuades me that any of those three criteria are satisfied.

It is easy to critique in hindsight. In reality such situations move very fast , and are very confusing. Cops are human, they make mistakes. I do too .

The only comment I will make is that so far none of the silver braided ones have actually come out and said straight up "a cop made a mistake". I hope they will have the sense to do that

**MadDuck** · 25th January 2009, 20:49

Originally Posted by Number One

Awful stuff whatever the full story

No what is awful is that this thread title has been changed to "the innocent 17 year old"

**FJRider** · 25th January 2009, 20:55

Originally Posted by Kickaha

Are people really dumb enough to believe shit like that?

Believe what you choose... ignore what you choose...

**Winston001** · 25th January 2009, 21:03

Originally Posted by Ixion

We may (and should) condemn the police when they do something unbefitting their position (break the rules, etc); or when they are negligent........

The only comment I will make is that so far none of the silver braided ones have actually come out and said straight up "a cop made a mistake". I hope they will have the sense to do that

Good post Ix, the only point I'd argue with is the assumption that a "mistake" was made. It could have been a ricochet, or something else. Tragic - but not an error.

Ultimately the prick with the .22 brought all of this about.

And for those few who say a .22 is a piddly weapon, not worthy of Glocks or M16s in response - a .22 pistol is the weapon of choice for professional killers. Light, quiet, small, sod-all recall, reliable etc etc..... And the M16 uses a .223 calibre.

**Ixion** · 25th January 2009, 21:06

Well, even a ricochet , or pass through , that kills an innocent person is a mistake. I'm sure it wasn't intended , and training for roles like AoS puts a lot of focus on the need to be sure that such wayward rounds won't harm the innocent. Harder to be certain in the real world.

**Weaver** · 25th January 2009, 21:15

Originally Posted by Hitcher

Don't forget it was a couple of Constables armed with Glocks who took down Graeme Burton.

That was another police related firearm fuck up. Did he not steal a firearm from a police car? Imagine if it hadn't been there to start with.

**Hitcher** · 25th January 2009, 21:23

Originally Posted by Weaver

That was another police related firearm fuck up. Did he not steal a firearm from a police car? Imagine if it hadn't been there to start with.

Burton's intent was suicide by Police. I am sure he would have located a weapon somehow, somewhere.

**Dean** · 25th January 2009, 21:25

imagine the payback against the coppa . whether the officer is guilty or not guilty the public eye view it mostly as murder or manslaughter or just plain wrongdoing.i dont think theres any point in backing up for the officer as you would meet harsh counter posts.if only everyone could find common grounds on this.kb is full of love and disrespect i guess

**Kickaha** · 25th January 2009, 21:33

Originally Posted by youngbiker16

.kb is full of love and disrespect i guess

Mikey? son of Mikey?

**Brett** · 25th January 2009, 21:38

Talking with someone who was actually on hand at this incident, it seems that there is possibility that it was a through and through shot and the 17 year old stopped the bullet.