Bike cop blocking my pass

**Devil** · 4th February 2009, 09:16

Originally Posted by Max Preload

So you shouldn't use passing lanes to overtake slower vehicles because you inevitably have to merge again anyway? Yeah, that makes sense...

Yeah, it does. Obviously not to you. Only applicable to heavy traffic. Not bunches of traffic that clears up.
As stated earlier by someone else. It's exactly why they block passing lanes on holiday weekends.

**MsKABC** · 4th February 2009, 09:18

Originally Posted by Devil

Yeah, it does. Obviously not to you. Only applicable to heavy traffic. Not bunches of traffic that clears up.
As stated earlier by someone else. It's exactly why they block passing lanes on holiday weekends.

Yeah, I see your point Devil - if passing only serves to move you a few vehicles further ahead in a very long and slow moving queue, then what is the point? It just creates a bottle-neck at the end of the passing lane. Have seen it happen coming into Orewa from up north.

**MSTRS:Me** · 4th February 2009, 09:21

Originally Posted by Bren

Happens all the time down here...some people sit right ion the middle of the passing lanes to block other cars passing. This is common on the lanes just out of Paraparaumu and Waikanae I never saw this kind of thing down south, and am now realising the driving up here is worse than down south

Seems the further north ya go then the bigger the tosser is on the road!

Don't forget about Mr80k who speeds up to 110+k when the passing lanes start

**Ixion** · 4th February 2009, 09:26

Why then spend much money building passing lanes. By that logic they are useless. It seems as obvious to me as anything can be, that if you have the inevitable slow vehicle (tractor, lorry, dodderer , whatever) plodding along at 65kph, if there are no passing lanes , then EVERYONE else must be brought down to 65kph (or they overtake where there are no passing lanes, which is simply to use the oncoming carriageway as a passing lane) . Whereas if there is a passing lane, I , and the rest of the queue trapped behind Mr Dodder, can pass him, and proceed on our way at 100kph.

How can it possibly be slower to have say 20 vehicles doing 100kph and one doing 65kph, than to have 21 vehicles doing 65kph.

The business of closing the lanes at holiday times has nothing to do with speeding up the traffic, quite the reverse. It is to deliberately slow the traffic down, "traffic calming" they call it, like putting in speed bumps.

**Badjelly** · 4th February 2009, 09:29

Originally Posted by Ixion

The business of closing the lanes at holiday times has nothing to do with speeding up the traffic, quite the reverse. It is to deliberately slow the traffic down, "traffic calming" they call it, like putting in speed bumps.

I can't cite any quantitative studies, but I think it neither speeds the traffic up nor slows it down, given that the volume of traffic flowing along the road is controlled by the single-lane sections. What it does do is avoid a lot of frantic and (from the collective point of view) pointless reordering of the traffic in the short 2-lane sections.

**Devil** · 4th February 2009, 09:29

Originally Posted by Ixion

Why then spend much money building passing lanes. By that logic they are useless. It seems as obvious to me as anything can be, that if you have the inevitable slow vehicle (tractor, lorry, dodderer , whatever) plodding along at 65kph, if there are no passing lanes , then EVERYONE else must be brought down to 65kph (or they overtake where there are no passing lanes, which is simply to use the oncoming carriageway as a passing lane) . Whereas if there is a passing lane, I , and the rest of the queue trapped behind Mr Dodder, can pass him, and proceed on our way at 100kph.

Depends on the traffic. Passing lanes make sense when it's not nose to tail chocka traffic. If it's your every day traffic, or normal weekend traffic they work just great. But when everyones is up everyone elses arse for kilometres it serves no purpose.

**marty** · 4th February 2009, 09:33

speaking of cops holding up traffic - i was coming home from work this week at some ungodly hour of the morning. travelling on NZ's finest piece of road linking the north with the south. i was going pretty quick. unreasonably quick actually, but that's another story.

i pulled out to pass a line of 3 trucks. went well onto the other side of the road so as not to upset them too much

fuck me, there's a cop car in front of them. not doing much more than 95km/h. i only saw it when i was next to it, and i sure as shit wasn't going to wash off !@)km/h! i just kept going - didn't see any lights or anything! maybe they were texting and didn't see me

**MSTRS:Me** · 4th February 2009, 09:47

Originally Posted by marty

...maybe they were texting and didn't see me

Nah. That was just them filling their quota...courtesy of the Human Rights Act... of employing disabled (blind) staff.

**Max Preload** · 4th February 2009, 09:51

Originally Posted by Badjelly

I can't cite any quantitative studies, but I think it neither speeds the traffic up nor slows it down, given that the volume of traffic flowing along the road is controlled by the single-lane sections. What it does do is avoid a lot of frantic and (from the collective point of view) pointless reordering of the traffic in the short 2-lane sections.

Good. Hopefully that'll wake the fuckers from their slumber.

**awayatc** · 4th February 2009, 09:52

when I was living in The Netherlands i was pulled over once or twice for sitting on the speed limit......
Since Everybody drives/rides over the limit, the cops were suspicious as to why I only did 100 KPH.....

Why did I do my best NOT to be pulled over..?
What did I have to hide?...

**Gremlin** · 4th February 2009, 11:20

If they built the roads properly, and they were two lane all the way, OR had decent passing lanes AND drivers could drive properly and not speed up for the passing lanes... there wouldn't be an issue.

Traffic calming is bullshit... If you're sitting in a line, with no chance of going anywhere any time soon, I'm reasonably certain you won't be calm.

Cop was holding up traffic. Simple. You are also obliged to keep left unless passing. If the passing lane was open, people could pass, except the cop obviously deemed he knew better (thats never happened before aye

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I think I would have tried to pass on his right, if there was space and I wouldn't speed...

**Jantar** · 4th February 2009, 13:24

Send a complaint to the IPCA and ask that the cop receive a ticket for failing to keep left by using a passing lane when he wasn't passing, and in doing so failed to allow faster traffic to pass. I'd be interested to see the response.

**breakaway** · 4th February 2009, 16:13

Did you get his rego?

**Skyryder** · 4th February 2009, 16:14

Originally Posted by Jantar

Send a complaint to the IPCA and ask that the cop receive a ticket for failing to keep left by using a passing lane when he wasn't passing, and in doing so failed to allow faster traffic to pass. I'd be interested to see the response.

Who are the IPCA??