Exemption: DENIED.

[CookMySock]

Exemptions are not granted for reasons of convenience.

Actually, I am a little puzzled about WHAT they WILL do an exemption FOR. It seems now days all they will do is allow you to ride something based on the Australian LAMS list.

More along those lines, it baffles me WHY they would give out exemptions AT ALL really. LOTS of motorcyclists are causing themselves horrific injuries, and the statistics are getting worse and worse, and there is no money in the ACC coffers to PAY for it.

A year ago, I asked for an exemption to ride a 650 on my learners license. They GAVE it to me.. So I go crash the fucker at high speed don't I.. How I didn't hurt myself real badly, or worse, baffles hell out of me.

I can't see this exemption business lasting, especially with this latest ACC blowout.

If it were me mate, I would just ride to work. Just ride carefully-carefully commuting-styles, and when you get stopped give the occifer the droopy-lip and tell him the car broke down and you couldna get to work.

Gee, who wants to ride a bike home at 4am in the middle of winter anway? Its gunna be fucken cold, and a bit of ice around too.. nasty..

Steve

[hedcase07]

Actually, I am a little puzzled about WHAT they WILL do an exemption FOR. It seems now days all they will do is allow you to ride something based on the Australian LAMS list.

More along those lines, it baffles me WHY they would give out exemptions AT ALL really. LOTS of motorcyclists are causing themselves horrific injuries, and the statistics are getting worse and worse, and there is no money in the ACC coffers to PAY for it.

A year ago, I asked for an exemption to ride a 650 on my learners license. They GAVE it to me.. So I go crash the fucker at high speed don't I.. How I didn't hurt myself real badly, or worse, baffles hell out of me.

I can't see this exemption business lasting, especially with this latest ACC blowout.

If it were me mate, I would just ride to work. Just ride carefully-carefully commuting-styles, and when you get stopped give the occifer the droopy-lip and tell him the car broke down and you couldna get to work.

Gee, who wants to ride a bike home at 4am in the middle of winter anway? Its gunna be fucken cold, and a bit of ice around too.. nasty..

Steve

I would like to know what bullshit you baffeld them with to get an exemption for a 650 on your learners?

[want-a-harley]

Is there another country in the world with as much beurocracy as NZ? If so, is there one where the majority of individuals are so against it. Is it a hangover from colonialism?

[rosie631]

Sometimes it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.

I'd just risk it and hope that if you get pulled over outside hours the cop is understanding.

I agree. Helen Skoon - sounds like a total bitch

[Jantar]

Maybe things have changed. A browse through the NZTA website shows:

Are there any exemptions to the conditions that apply to the restricted licence?
You can apply for an exemption through a driver licensing agent if you can prove the restrictions are unreasonable in your case, and that safety will not be compromised if an exemption is granted. There is a non-refundable application fee of $22.50.

But when I searched the Land Transport (Driver Licensing) Rule 1999, I find that ALL references to exemptions have been deleted.

[MuzzyBee]

So I have no idea if my 1994 defensive driving cert will count. I'm guessing probably not. The street talk course is nearly $200, and the hours it's run preclude me from attending.
The guy I spoke to seems to think it will be easier for me to ride all the way out to the AA, queue up for about an hour (no jokes, I queued for well over an hour last time I went in to hand over my forms that I'd already filled in online, but had to hand in in person.), wait for them to fax the forms through, only to be told to go away and come back in 3 Months or do a fresh course!!
Very frustrating, to say the least.
Phew. Rant out.

I worked for one of the approved agencies a few years ago.
If you used the defensive driving certificate for your car licence as stupid as it may seem you have to do the course again because in LTNZ logic the certificate has already been used for one class of licence.
Also, if you are doing the defensive driving course for a motorcycle you *should* be sitting the 1 hour practical on your bike and this has to be offered by the agency. I say should, as the whoever you go to, shouldn't let you do the practical in a car if you already hold your full.. but I'm not saying that won't happen!

[fireliv]

Funnily enough i had mine declined last week by the same person for the same reason and i have the same problem with work times and being able to attend a driving course as im in shift work too lol. bad time to be applying maybe lmao, not too worried tho as 1 month to go till i can legally ride and crash lmao..

Hmmm but aint you riding a 600cc bike anyways?? I mean whats an exemption if you riding outside your cc limit anyways....... unless you got an exemption for that

[rwh]

If you used the defensive driving certificate for your car licence as stupid as it may seem you have to do the course again because in LTNZ logic the certificate has already been used for one class of licence.

I'd definitely appeal that one - I noticed that they tore part of my cert off and kept it, but I've seen nothing in the regulations about a cert being 'used up' - it just says you can get a speedup if you get one.

Also, if you are doing the defensive driving course for a motorcycle you *should* be sitting the 1 hour practical on your bike and this has to be offered by the agency. I say should, as the whoever you go to, shouldn't let you do the practical in a car if you already hold your full.. but I'm not saying that won't happen!

I was given no choice; the practical had to be done in a car, and I had to provide it. Too bad if I'd had no car licence.

Richard

[retro asian]

Take a quick flight to Rarotonga.
Apparently they have a "scooter around the carpark" test which gives you a full licence, that can be used back here

[samgab]

Take a quick flight to Rarotonga.
Apparently they have a "scooter around the carpark" test which gives you a full licence, that can be used back here

Yeah, I've got my full Raro motorbike licence, it was cool. I sat on the scooter, rode around the 1 cop car in the carpark, and back to the guy, who issued the full licence on the spot. Trouble is, it was issued in 1998, and I think it was only valid for 1 Month
Cool licence though, they look a bit like the McLovin' licence.

[samgab]

I'd definitely appeal that one - I noticed that they tore part of my cert off and kept it, but I've seen nothing in the regulations about a cert being 'used up' - it just says you can get a speedup if you get one.
Richard

Yeah, it seems so crazy. It's not like the principles you learn wear off after you've used it once?!
My cert still has the tear off bit attached to it
Ahh, whatever, I'll mosey along to the AA and try for it, and report back on the result...
I'll be interested to hear what the inspector has to say about it all too, he's kept asking me over the past 4 WEEKS it took them to reply if my exemption has turned up yet.

[DELLORTO]

This is a classic case of the nanny state! F**k 'em ride to work any way. The laws were originally there to protect people, not milk them and control the minutae of their lives, I think that these chicken sh*t laws belittle the important ones, like "do unto others". I ride what I like, when I like, but treat other road users with respect.

[rwh]

Yeah, it seems so crazy. It's not like the principles you learn wear off after you've used it once?!
My cert still has the tear off bit attached to it
Ahh, whatever, I'll mosey along to the AA and try for it, and report back on the result...

Your 1994 one? No, I don't think that's going to work. As someone said, I think it has to be done since you got your restricted - I'm pretty sure that bit is in the rules.

Richard

[Conquiztador]

At 17 my oldest got a Exemption to ride a 400cc. He was on his Restricted. It lasted until 2 weeks after he could sit his Full (6 months early as he was able to get his full if he did the defensive corse).

He also worked night and got an exemption to ride to and from work.

The difference here was:
- He had no other way of travelling
- When he was able to get full it expired.

I personally consider that fair. The logic here was: "OK, so you have no other way to travel until you have your full, so we give you a expemption. But as soon as you can get your full (when you do a defensive thgingy) we pull it. Son, if you really want this, you will get it.

To try the: "But I cant get of work, my mother has the car, my cat is sick" shit is not really part of it. Either you sort your shit or you walk. Simple.

[scumdog]

This is a classic case of the nanny state! F**k 'em ride to work any way. The laws were originally there to protect people, not milk them and control the minutae of their lives, I think that these chicken sh*t laws belittle the important ones, like "do unto others". I ride what I like, when I like, but treat other road users with respect.

Hopefully you and another of similar ilk never meet head-on wrapped in you own smug superiorority...