Police get riders at over 200 km/h

[Ixion]

Oh boy! How obtuse was I?! Ok. When I said 'my' it was a 'royal my' on behalf of all the other road users who have been on the same piece of road as those guys.

Were they (or anyone except the naughty lads) ACTUALLY endangered . I have seen nothing reported to suggest such a conclusion.

There is , in my mind, a clear distinction between riding *dangerously* and riding at an illegal *speed*.

It may be that the two in question did endanger other road users. In that case they deserve condemnation. But , I have not seen anything reported to draws me to such a conclusion.

A hypothetical surmise that if you, or Her Majesty, or the Easter Bunny, had been on the same piece of road , they would somehow have automatically been endangered (beyond the inevitable fact that any other vehicle is always a danger) is totally speculative and calls upon emotion rather than logic.

This all too easily leads to the "I don't do that so that proves it must be dangerous , immoral and perverted" view of life. Many people do things which I do not do - for many reasons. many people do things that you do not do. Neither statement proves that the unspecified "things" are dangerous, or otherwise to be deprecated. Merely that some people do that which I (and you) do not.

It is as if we were to condemn all Honda riders for endangering the rest of us on the basis that somehow they would cause us to be infected with AIDS.

[Big Dave]

Where the ferk did 350 come from terminal velocity of a falling object is 120mph ish

African or European Swallow?

[Ixion]

Ask Mr carver about that . I am given to understand he swallows.

[McJim]

Where the ferk did 350 come from terminal velocity of a falling object is 120mph ish

That depends on mass, surface area and aerodynamics.

A dart falls faster than a flag.

Wasn't me. I've posted a video of what I was doing this past weekend my bike maxes out at about 190kph.

[MVnut]

African or European Swallow?

According to Monty Python, neither species is quite as 'dangerous' as a copper in a silver Hyundai Sonata .

[Mikkel]

Seeing you mention 'civil rights', what about my civil right to use the road without idiots endangering my life by travelling at more than double the speed limit?

Ixion covered this quite well I think. But I think you'd have to agree that sleeping or distracted motorists in vehicles weighing more than 1000 kgs travelling at 95 km/h constitute more of a risk to you as a person than someone who's operating a ~200 kg machine at 211 km/h.

I certainly know which body carries the higher momentum - which ultimately is what you should be concerned with if it ends up heading towards yourself.

I prefer the message 'the faster you go, the bigger the mess'. Much more accurate.

Haven't you noticed that people are mainly fed up with the "speed kills" bullshit. No one in their right mind would argue that the risks and consequences escalate with higher speeds. That, however, doesn't imply that high speeds are lethal or even necessarily dangerous.

350km/h is pretty close to absolute terminal velocity in the lower atmosphere, given a slipstreamed shape. stable freefall is about 220km/h (12000fpm) - it would take a reasonably determined effort to get near 350km/h (around 19000fpm), although at high altitude in a low drag situation I think the free fall speed record is near 1000km/h

988 km/h according to Wikipedia - and what an adventure

So my Harley won't make the 300kph then?

Put some fairings on the old girl and take of the tassles and maybe you'll get there.

According to Monty Python, neither species is quite as 'dangerous' as a copper in a silver Hyundai Sonata .

Aw come on mate, they didn't have Hyundai Sonata's in the middle ages - nor even when MP went their seperate ways.

I'm fairly confident that it was a black Rover V8.

...tiny-brained wiper of other peoples bottoms...

[scumdog]

It may be that the two in question did endanger other road users. In that case they deserve condemnation. But , I have not seen anything reported to draws me to such a conclusion.

Of course all those that were about to pull out onto the road from gate-ways or about to overtake etc. and almost shit themselves when they realised the speed of the approaching bikes was waay faster than they allowed for will naturally report it/post on KB so we all know?

[Sollyboy]

350km/h is pretty close to absolute terminal velocity in the lower atmosphere, given a slipstreamed shape. stable freefall is about 220km/h (12000fpm) - it would take a reasonably determined effort to get near 350km/h

what if they fold the mirrors in and cover they self in a vaseline?

[marty]

Where the ferk did 350 come from terminal velocity of a falling object is 120mph ish

How many skydives have you done?

[Ixion]

Of course all those that were about to pull out onto the road from gate-ways or about to overtake etc. and almost shit themselves when they realised the speed of the approaching bikes was waay faster than they allowed for will naturally report it/post on KB so we all know?

I don't remember too many gate ways on the fast stretches of that road.

As to overtakers, they never see bikes at any speed, so there's no difference there.

One of the interesting things about bikes is that they seem to have a connection into another dimension. One populated exclusively by hordes of children, old people , and vehices perpetually pulling out of driveways.

Whenever there is a motorcycle moving at pace in our universe, some sort of extra-dimensional tunnel opens up, so that hordes of children , animals, driveways with pulling-out-vehicles, and farmers appear from nowhere, which did not actually exist in out universe untill the arrival of the motorcycle. Stranger still, these hordes are invisible to both the motorcyclist and anybody else. But still possess sufficient corporeality to cause accidents. Or so we must conclude from the frequency with which these vagrant hazards are invoked by the condemnatory.

It would surely merit investigation by the quantum physicists ? Or Pterry.

As to the reporting deficiency, that may be so. But, by exactly the same logic, we could prove that all coppers are taking bribes: since neither the briber nor the bribee would be likely to report the activity , which therefore proves that it is going on. I prefer to assume that the absence of a report of something means that there is nothing to report.

[3umph]

Sooooo.... has any one noticed anyone without a bike and now has been walking or busing lately that may of been for a ride to Kaikoura for coffee????

[Blackshear]

African or European Swallow?

The real question, do Coconuts migrate?

[Squid]

What I cant quite understand is why the 2 chappies pulled over.

and yes cruising along at 211kph is a tad silly. If anything jumps out in front of you and its lights out.

As those with larger capacity sportbikes know it is ridiculously easy to do those kinds of speeds though. Even on my old gixxa the difference between 100 and 170ish*mumble-mumble* was a rolling the throttle another 30deg around....

[SARGE]

Apart from the fact that you would need to be a dickhead to be doing that sort of speed and putting yourself and innocent others at risk?

Sorry, but that is FAR too fast to be going on a public road. Go to a racetrack if you want to do speeds like that. We should NOT be condoning this sort of thing IMHO.

yea .. FAR too fast .. dickheads.. risk.. innocent ..racetrack ..condone.. dickheads ..


my bikes only do 102kph at the stops ..

[nallac]

yea .. FAR too fast .. dickheads.. risk.. innocent ..racetrack ..condone.. dickheads ..


my bike only does 102kphish at the stops ..

yeah same here...in 1st gear tho.....