Ducati vs ZZR14

[Quasievil]

If your memory goes back further than the last 10 years that is.

Nope unfortunetly.
So in ancient history MV was a parallel to the thorough bred of Ferrari but lost it, now Ducati has it , and MV want it back?

Be cool to see MV out on the track at a higher level, ie GP , WSB, the Italians can sock it to the Japs if it wants to, last GP was testimony to that, bloody great to I reckon.

[onearmedbandit]

Ferrari's racing success is only really a recent thing anyway. The early days of Ferrari's racing history are not that glamorous, despite Enzo's fantastic media-spin.

[Lou Girardin]

Ferrari's racing success is only really a recent thing anyway. The early days of Ferrari's racing history are not that glamorous, despite Enzo's fantastic media-spin.

What? Apart from F1, where they've won more races than anyone else. They had a stranglehold on Le Man's in the 60's. Until Henry got all miffed and threw cubic money and a 7 litre engine into the GT's to beat the 4 litre Ferraris.

[pritch]

MV has a far more illustrious GP history than Ducati. .

Exactly what I was thinking. MV Agusta dominated the bigger classes in GP racing for years.

[Marmoot]

Hi

Why when you look at the sad world of cages almost any ferarri would smoke almost any random nissan etc, but when you return to the real world of bikes a bike from Kawasaki (ZZR14) is the fastest production bike not a Ducati or maybe Aprilia????

I do beg to differ.

Building a japanese car that can smoke any ferarri in a straight line wouldn't even take a fraction of a Ferarri's cost (cue over 1000bhp cars here).
Same as ZZR14 smoking a ducati on a straight.

Try comparing them in a race track with corners.....

For me? I'd love to take them both home. Threesome is always great

[Lou Girardin]

I do beg to differ.

Building a japanese car that can smoke any ferarri in a straight line wouldn't even take a fraction of a Ferarri's cost (cue over 1000bhp cars here).
Same as ZZR14 smoking a ducati on a straight.

Try comparing them in a race track with corners.....

For me? I'd love to take them both home. Threesome is always great

Let's talk about cars in production and run as they come from the factory, shall we. Otherwise Ferrari has a rather quick car that's racing at the moment, that would demolish any Nishondazdayota.

[Marmoot]

Let's talk about cars in production and run as they come from the factory, shall we. Otherwise Ferrari has a rather quick car that's racing at the moment, that would demolish any Nishondazdayota.

Proportional Study. Gotta proportion the pricetags on the cars being compared.

if Ducati cost 1.5 times the ZZR, you gotta compare the Ferrari with something 2/3 the price of it too.

So, if you take Modena 360 at $300,000 then you gotta compare it with a $200,000 toyota......damn big turbos will go into the budget.

A million dollar one-off ferrari shouldn't go in there as I dunno what you gonna do with $660,000 spent on a Toyota.....bling it with Diamonds?

[Marmoot]

On the note of it, I wonder what is the price tag on Ferrari F1 if it ever be brand new in a showroom somewhere.........

And I wonder if the Honda F1 would be much cheaper for being jap car and all.....

And which one is more expensive, Honda RCV GP bike or Ducati Desmo GP bike?

What about the superbike? I heard Duc 998 was way cheaper than RC45?


P.S.
If comparing cars as it goes, I bet Mitsi Evo 9 would be faster than Modena 360 in the icy roads........time and place for everything, I guess?

[James Deuce]

Be cool to see MV out on the track at a higher level, ie GP , WSB, the Italians can sock it to the Japs if it wants to, last GP was testimony to that, bloody great to I reckon.

Pah! WSB is for lollypop sucking weenies.

Nice to dominate a series by cheating.

**sits back to wait for a beating from Quasi**

[Eddieb]

While Ducati has always been called "The Ferrari of motorcycles" this is by association only. Being italian and red. However, MV has real Ferarri bloodlines with with development of the F4 engine. This is mentioned on their website. The "F" in F4 is even the Ferarri font.

I think you'll find Ducati's association with Ferrari goes back much further than that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari...no_Rampante.22
The prancing horse has not always been uniquely identified with the Ferrari brand: Fabio Taglioni used it on his Ducati motorbikes. Taglioni's father was, in fact, a companion of Count Francesco Baracca (Original owner/creator of the symbol), a legendary "asso" (ace) of the Italian air force during World War I, who painted it on the fuselage of his planes.) and fought with him in the 91st Air Squad. But, as Ferrari's fame grew, Ducati abandoned the horse; this may have been the result of a private agreement between the two brands.

[Quasievil]

No one should compare cheap production modes of transport like Honda, kawasaki etc against soul filled works of art that have high specification performance charachteristics such as that of Ducati and Ferarri.
Thats just wrong.

thing is with Ferarri and ducati, everyone would like one in their shed , if they say they dont they are lying.

Crash a Kwaka "oh bugger oh well get another one in the morning"
Crash a Ducati "life is over"

[Finn]

Speaking of Ferrari, my brother just picked up this on Friday. Notice how arrogance runs in our family? He's parked on a pedestrian crossing.

[James Deuce]

Speaking of Ferrari, my brother just picked up this on Friday. Notice how arrogance runs in our family? He's parked on a pedestrian crossing.

I get the distinct impression that you possess the greater measure of good taste in your family.

[Lou Girardin]

So, if you take Modena 360 at $300,000 then you gotta compare it with a $200,000 toyota......damn big turbos will go into the budget.

Don't matter, you'll still look like a mouth-breathing retard in the Toymotor.

[Crisis management]

No one should compare cheap production modes of transport like Honda, kawasaki etc against soul filled works of art that have high specification performance charachteristics such as that of Ducati and Ferarri.

You've obviously never owned an early Ducati have you? Try keeping the electrics intact, the gear change spring tension "tensioned" and having to stop every two hours to tune the carbs on an early 750.
I even got passed by a triumph once which was really disillusioning...