Sad joke

[Patrick]

Just to make it better... I now hear that he is going to be out by Xmas on home detention...

[Str8 Jacket]

Just to make it better... I now hear that he is going to be out by Xmas on home detention...

He MAY be out, here is the article http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3789644a10,00.html

IMO its just not fair, especially to Chris' family....

[Patrick]

He MAY be out, here is the article http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3789644a10,00.html

IMO its just not fair, especially to Chris' family....

He WILL be out.... wait and see...

[judecatmad]

So in general, I think isolation is irrelevant, deterrent doesn't need to be much, maybe he should have to contribute to the cost of the funeral and the car and stuff. And perhaps a bit of revenge to keep the masses happy - how about the stocks? Anyone who wants can go pelt him with tomatoes.

So this kid should pay a few thousand dollars and that's the end of it? Oh, and a couple of kilos of rotten veggies are to be thrown at him....

Nice to know that you think life is so cheap.....

[outlawtorn]

He was 15! Just a kid.
A stupid teenager who didn't think thru the consequences of his actions like most 15 year olds. So none of you ever did anything blindingly stupid at that age?
And now his own life is ruined.

Locking him up for life won't change anything.
My 2 cents.

What??????
So a smack on the bum and a stern telling off should see him right hey? Lock the bastard behind bars for life, society doesn't need murderers.

[rwh]

So this kid should pay a few thousand dollars and that's the end of it? Oh, and a couple of kilos of rotten veggies are to be thrown at him....

Nice to know that you think life is so cheap.....

I don't think life is cheap - but there's currently no way of paying it back.

Richard

[Patrick]

The maximum for "mans laughter" is life in prison. What do you have to do to get the maximums here? Deliberate action, death of an innocent, no remorse whatsoever, as in this case...

Burglars can be sentenced to 10 years... one I caught and ended up being charged with 186 burglaries (I shit you not... and he was a cop!!!) got 3 years, and on appeal, he got 5 years.

Just two examples of good hard work being undone by Judges at a stroke of a pen... Pffftttt...

I am sure there will be many other examples.....

[Lil_Byte]

I like the idea of braining the kid with a hunk of concrete while he is travelling at 100ks on the motor way.

I like the idea of an eye for an eye

[Lou Girardin]

one I caught and ended up being charged with 186 burglaries (I shit you not... and he was a cop!!!) .

Did he have approval for his second job?
I'm glad to see the recruitment system is as good as ever.

[The_Dover]

Compare this little pricks sentence with that of the 10yr old killers of Jamie Bulger in the UK, fucking pathetic.

I'd give him the concrete block and tell him that he can come out when he's finished eating it.

And he'd have to play a full 80 mins against his victims first XV every weekend with a blind referee.

[magicfairy]

Wasn't going to bother to reply in light of the scathing comments that I am reading, so here is my last word on the subject.

Yes I am a good mother, but I have been surprised by some of the idiot things my son did at 14. Now he is 18 he has a different headspace.

I am not saying 4 years is the right sentence but I don't think his crime is up there with the men that stab their girlfriends 20X cos they are jealous, or murder little kids, or are serial rapists.

Personally I do not hold with the Death Penalty - what if the courts get it wrong (Rex Haig, Arthur Alan Thomas, David Dougherty...)
As for chemical castration...

I think he should serve his 4 years, don't agree with him being out in 1.
My point was he was 14 at the time, and I really don't believe his intention was murder.

And what would I like his sentence to be - obviously some sort of detention, I never said "slap him on the wrist with a wet bus ticket"

But as he is to be locked up make it constructive, give him values, let him learn the meaning of hard work, teach him skills, give him role models - be it in some sort of Army-type training, so that when he does come out he has a chance to make a contribution to society and not cost the taxpayer a fortune keeping him in jail.


This is a democracy and last time I checked we had something called Freedom of Speech and the right to have an opinion. Which I aired. And now regret.

[Patrick]

Did he have approval for his second job?
I'm glad to see the recruitment system is as good as ever.

Nah... thats why he got the 5 years - for not gaining approval for his secondary employment. Just a slap on the hand with a dry bus ticket (coz the wet ones might hurt) from the judges for the Burglaries.

[The_Dover]

Wasn't going to bother to reply in light of the scathing comments that I am reading, so here is my last word on the subject.

Yes I am a good mother, but I have been surprised by some of the idiot things my son did at 14. Now he is 18 he has a different headspace.

I am not saying 4 years is the right sentence but I don't think his crime is up there with the men that stab their girlfriends 20X cos they are jealous, or murder little kids, or are serial rapists.

Personally I do not hold with the Death Penalty - what if the courts get it wrong (Rex Haig, Arthur Alan Thomas, David Dougherty...)
As for chemical castration...

I think he should serve his 4 years, don't agree with him being out in 1.
My point was he was 14 at the time, and I really don't believe his intention was murder.

And what would I like his sentence to be - obviously some sort of detention, I never said "slap him on the wrist with a wet bus ticket"

But as he is to be locked up make it constructive, give him values, let him learn the meaning of hard work, teach him skills, give him role models - be it in some sort of Army-type training, so that when he does come out he has a chance to make a contribution to society and not cost the taxpayer a fortune keeping him in jail.


This is a democracy and last time I checked we had something called Freedom of Speech and the right to have an opinion. Which I aired. And now regret.

NOW DO YOU GUYS SEE WHY WE SHOULD NEVER HAVE GIVEN WOMEN THE VOTE???

fucking bad idea that was eh?

[Patrick]

[QUOTE=magicfairy;745542]
"I think he should serve his 4 years, don't agree with him being out in 1.
My point was he was 14 at the time, and I really don't believe his intention was murder."

- To serve 4, he would have to be sentenced to "at least" 8 years. He knew what he did would cause what actually happened. Fact!

"But as he is to be locked up make it constructive, give him values, let him learn the meaning of hard work, teach him skills, give him role models - be it in some sort of Army-type training, so that when he does come out he has a chance to make a contribution to society and not cost the taxpayer a fortune keeping him in jail."

This won't happen - he will be in a nice little place where they have Play Stations or X-Boxes, no hard work, no Army training, role models will be other street gangstas, the reality is quite different to what one would expect. Fact!

"This is a democracy and last time I checked we had something called Freedom of Speech and the right to have an opinion. Which I aired. And now regret."

It is a democracy - speak up and make comment, girl! The point here is that killing someone is only worth 4 years (serve one third and you're out on parole, or, home on home Detention by this Xmas...) - how do the courts equate that 4 years was ever going to be enough?

[terbang]

I really feel for the poor family that lost Chris, but nothing will bring him back.

But there are deterrents to stop this sort of thing happening in the first place