Scotsman on a German
I'm off to find out where I can donate my $ - probably there's a gun shop owners of New Zealand thing online that will accept donations - alternatively I'll ask the fella for his bank account details.
The travesty is the fact that he will probably be found not guilty but still have to fork out cash for a successful defence.
He didn't HAVE to wing the fella running at him - he could have easily shot the bastard in the face...but he chose not to.
In space, no one can smell your fart.
L-Plate Rider
I guess you're supposed to ask Helen if you can borrow her strap-on to clip him round the ear with.Originally Posted by Postie
The egg with the machete was trying to commit suicide FFS, how can the shop owner get charged with any wrong-doing?
When the dykes in the Beehive stop us cleaning the scum out of the gene pool it's a sorry state of affairs IMO!
Weapons of Mass Acceleration
Yep.... poor bugger should get acquitted based on the facts todate.... keeping in mind none of us were there and we don't know the whole facts.
Should be self defence - the same defence used by police when they have to slot someone with a 9mm. Fearing death or GBH of self or another person.
The issue may be the level of force used and how the threat is portrayed in court by the lawyer representing scumbag he shot (i.e. the crown in this case... how ironic).
Forum whore
There is no such thing as a "small sentence" in these cases. Even if he is found not guilty (as will almost certainly be the case) his life is ruined. His defence will cost him at least $100,000. And even having been charged , despite being found not guilty, can prevent him being able to hold his job.
It stinks. The cops do this all the time, it is just vindictivness.
And the argument about "being up to the courts to decide" is utter crap. The police make decisions not to prosecute all the time: remember Helen and the forged painting? And I didn't hear the police saying "it's up to the courts" when Constable Abbot was charged. So, will we see every cop who Tasers someone being charged in future, because "it's up to the courts to decide".
The cops know they can't get a conviction, but they just charge anyone who defends themselves out of sheer spitefullness.
Only thing you can do if you find yourself in this position, the victim of some thug, is follow the Kahui principle. Say nothing whatsoever to the police and IMMEDIATELY get a lawyer. because no matter how innocent you are, NZ Police policy is always to clobber the victim.
Weapons of Mass Acceleration
yeah but that 'scum' are the stupid buggers that vote for them... because they get benefits handouts for sitting at home doing drugs and drinking all day.... as they are not mentally or physically able to work, poor wee things.
Forum whore
I have a sturdy brick wall here, once you've finished with these heavyweights..
Weapons of Mass Acceleration
I need a beer.......
Weapons of Mass Acceleration
Im always half cocked.
It's OK...I've got a spare!
Well now I'm just confused!I guess you're supposed to ask Helen if you can borrow her strap-on to clip him round the ear with.
The egg with the machete was trying to commit suicide FFS, how can the shop owner get charged with any wrong-doing?
When the dykes in the Beehive stop us cleaning the scum out of the gene pool it's a sorry state of affairs IMO!
What have the Prime Minister's private sexual practices or lesbians in parliament got to do with this?
...she took the KT, and left me the Buell to ride....(Blues Brothers)
Weapons of Mass Acceleration
I didn't read the news.... I'd rather rant and rave and get angry then drink beer to make me feel better.
Nice response and explanation dude.
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e mare libertas
Bollocks.
He'll be convicted because he's guilty, ie, he kept a firearm in a naughty configuration, in a naughty place.
He'll be fined, because the range of penalties for that offense isn't really very harsh in comparison to penalties for violent crime.
He'll probably get to keep his firearms dealer's licence after giving an undertaking not to be naughty with the pistols any more.
What's the big deal? If the cops walked in and checked the premises at any stage prior to this incident, they could have charged him with the exact same offense.
I say again. The offense he has been charged with does not relate to the shooting.
I would have expected better from you than this ranty tripe.
When the cops shoot someone with their Glock, they're carrying it legally, and any potential offense relates to whether they shot the guy justifiably or not.
Greg Carvell has been charged in relation to carrying a gun illegally, not in relation to shooting someone unjustifiably. Big difference.
kiwibiker is full of love, an disrespect.
- mikey
Scotsman on a German
Dunno but if they got good lookin' lesbians I'll pay more attention to politics!
In space, no one can smell your fart.
L-Plate Rider
Fuck me, so I can actually get paid to do that shit? Where do I sign up? Do I get a bike and tyre allowance too? I'm addicted to them, honest! How about help with my speeding tickets?
The whole shituation defies belief, really, dunnit.
How about a no job - no vote policy! Ha, that would learn the Greenie mofos.
Weapons of Mass Acceleration
yep, you are correct.... but as I said ... I was reading this thread, not reading the news website, so thought the worse of the charge laid. So yes I stand corrected.
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Weapons of Mass Acceleration
You'd get my vote.
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