More Transit discrimination against bikes. FIGHT BACK

[Grahameeboy]

Why not just educate drivers to let people in?? They don't have this system on M25 in UK.................what is crazy is that there has been a recent issue with red light jumpers......mmmm...guess what will happen with this system...........

[limbimtimwim]

Good point. I missed that one. air cooled engines overheat when stationary for more than a few minutes, don't they. (Hey, it worked in California).

And some water cooled ones too. And some bikes just plain try and burn your leg on a hot day when riding slow. And two strokes making smoke while just sitting there isn't healthy.

You are correct the stop/start nature is dangerous not good for bikes and not safe for the riders. I think I better write this guy a letter in case the idea migrates down to my fine city.

[Whynot]

It got to the point where I was (probably illegally) riding over the old bridge that runs parallel to the new bridge. Only fishermen, joggers and cyclists on there -- just have to ride down a steep footpath at the Onehunga side to get back to the road.

I have often thought about going that way ....

I'm gonna phone this cunt every fifteen minutes.

All day long.

you are a genius

[Finn]

The reason for this is quite simple. About 2 years ago, Transit ordered a quantity of traffic lights from their supplier. Instead of ordering 20 units on Purchase Order #367523, they accidently transposed the numbers. So "20" showed as the PO # and "367523" was the quantity.

This was a legally binding contract so the traffic lights were manufactured and delivered. Transit have so far managed to reduce this number by 85,000 and are looking for new a creative ways to dump the rest.

[Grahameeboy]

The reason for this is quite simple. About 2 years ago, Transit ordered a quantity of traffic lights from their supplier. Instead of ordering 20 units on Purchase Order #367523, they accidently transposed the numbers. So "20" showed as the PO # and "367523" was the quantity.

This was a legally binding contract so the traffic lights were manufactured and delivered. Transit have so far managed to reduce this number by 85,000 and are looking for new a creative ways to dump the rest.

So you didn't think it odd when you accepted order then?

[Indiana_Jones]

Those lights are retarded. Like it's been said and what I've thought the whole time, the traffic is just gonna be blocked up on the local roads.

And the traffic will still be shit on the motorway, cause people in Auckland can't merge

-Indy

[Grahameeboy]

Those lights are retarded. Like it's been said and what I've thought the whole time, the traffic is just gonna be blocked up on the local roads.

And the traffic will still be shit on the motorway, cause people in Auckland can't merge

-Indy

That's cause Transit are 'unmerged'


Important You can split (or unmerge) a cell that has been merged, but you cannot split an empty, unmerged cell. You can, however, split the contents of an unmerged cell and distribute the divided contents across other cells.

Explains a lot eh?

[Ixion]

So you didn't think it odd when you accepted order then?

He didn't notice, because he was so busy organising production of the 367522 tonnes of yellow centre line paint they previously ordered.

Taxpayers will be pleased to hear that the paint has not been wasted, and plans are well under way to have it all used up by next year.

[Coyote]

I sent my email. I basically copy and pasted the points in the first post but I added a few more things, like a motorcycle with a single passenger is still pumping out fewer emmisions per passenger than a car with 5 passengers (which is true according to an article in the Listener)

[Finn]

So you didn't think it odd when you accepted order then?

I have no conscience when it comes to dealing with Government and Local Bodies. After all, stupid money is still money.

[craigs288]

and their traffic signals on the onramps didn't work for me in San Jose.
I sent this to transit.

"Dear Sir,

After having read an article regarding transits intention to install ramp signals to help congestion, I would like to make a few comments.
I was in the USA for a while last year and had the displeasure of dealing with this situation. All that happens is the congestion backs up and you end up stuck 1km down the road from the onramp. And that was with 5 lanes of motorway! I guess the end result is that people will have the same delay, just not on the onramp.

As far as the priority lane goes, why will motorcycles not be allowed to use it? Based on size and manouevrebility alone, motorcycles reduce congestion just by being on the road. Transit should be taking into account with all projects, real and imagined, New Zealanders love of vehicles, particularly motorcycles. Transit should be encouraging motorcycle use as a means of reducing congestion, and with that in mind, Transit should be making the roads more motorcycle friendly.

For Your Consideration
Craig Stewart"

[Grahameeboy]

I have no conscience when it comes to dealing with Government and Local Bodies. After all, stupid money is still money.

Bless you Finn...................

[The Stranger:Me]

Everyone is always descriminated against... that's life mate.

Yeah, cause they lie down and take it.
Also there is a principal here. Would be good to establish a pattern of thinking with these people, i.e. bikes don't cause congestion!!
That thinking should run through all traffic matters. Transit lanes, bus lanes, tolling, priority access to motorways, lane splitting etc.
So yes even if this is a "small" issue, it is also an opportunity to reinforce that sentiment with the establishment.

[Drum]

So we're not prepared to give anything new a go? Lets just lambast every new initiative aye? Good kiwi attitude.

These ramp metering signals are installed and working effectively in several US cities, reducing overall travel times. Transit are actually being quite innovative by risking installing them here.

The idea is that traffic flow on motorways can "break down" at a particular traffic volume. When the flow breaks down it is very difficult to get it to start flowing efficiently again. Ramp metering signals are intended to stop the flow reaching this break down point. Detectors on the motorway preceding the ramp monitor the speed of vehicles and when it starts falling the number of vehicles entering the motorway is restricted to keep the flow above the break down threshold.

The Mangere trial was not a fully installed system, and did not have the sensors in the motorway - so do not judge the finished system by the problems there. It was merely to determine the rate of red light running and wether the two lanes of traffic at the lights could merge safely.

They've got it wrong with the bikes though! We should be allowed to use the priority lanes.

[Grahameeboy]

Yeah, cause they lie down and take it.
Also there is a principal here. Would be good to establish a pattern of thinking with these people, i.e. bikes don't cause congestion!!
That thinking should run through all traffic matters. Transit lanes, bus lanes, tolling, priority access to motorways, lane splitting etc.
So yes even if this is a "small" issue, it is also an opportunity to reinforce that sentiment with the establishment.

Having just read Drums post I think we should give the idea a go.

With use of bus lanes etc, it is only Transit NZ who have a different view so there is some support for Bikers and take Esmonde Road for eg.....the new section of road is wider and it is no hassle riding down middle...okay another topic but no cop is gonna get ya when traffic is standing still so what I am saying is that there is as you say a principle, however, as Bikers we have other options to beat congestion so some would say it is a small issue.....sorry