Don Brash quits

**judecatmad** · 23rd November 2006, 15:59

Originally Posted by dawnrazor

JUST TO GET THIS STRAIGHT --- YOUR LAMENTING THE FACT A POLITICIAN HAS LOST HIS JOB

Nope, lamenting the fact that the manlady won't pack up and leave as well.....

**jrandom** · 23rd November 2006, 16:01

Would one of you Helen-hating types please explain what it is you don't like about her?

**Scouse** · 23rd November 2006, 16:02

Originally Posted by riffer

I grew up with The Beatles playing a lot in the house. I learned to play guitar to their songs. Thankfully, my lead guitar skills are way better than George Harrison.

Pah Is that why he was worth about $500 million when he died and your not. Tell you what you prolly just have a higher opinion of yourself than George Harrison had of himself. your probably also in your own mind a better bike rider than Valentino Rossi you just have'nt had the breaks that he has had eh

**jrandom** · 23rd November 2006, 16:04

Originally Posted by zrxer

Pah Is that why he was worth about $500 million when he died...

Yeah, but riffer's not dead.

Who do you think is winning?

**judecatmad** · 23rd November 2006, 16:26

Originally Posted by Fish

Would one of you Helen-hating types please explain what it is you don't like about her?

Where to start? Not all of this is directly attributable to uncle Helen, but as leader of her party and of the country, she takes the flak for it all.......

- PC gone mad
- Created a cross-section of NZ population who have a benefit mentality due to the fact that they earn a better living off the state....whilst at the same time running the public health system into the ground because their funding is apparently better directed at said benefit bludgers
- Run the standard of the school curriculum down to the point where fuckwits feel like achievers
- Taxed the hell out of middle New Zealand making it easier for those on a benefit or a low income to buy a house than those working their arses off to earn a decent wage, and also making it economically more attractive to leave the country
- Run the defence force down to the point where the Air Force have no fighter planes and the Navy are little more than an offshore patrol (read: coastguard). This despite the fact that we are an island nation (albeit rather isolated and so little threat to anyone) and need a certain level of self-defence ability. Oh, and whilst she's at it she regularly pisses Aussie off, so we cannot necessarily rely on help from their defence forces
- Allowed laws to be passed that legalise stuff that her own party did just so that they could get out of sorting their own mess out
- Is allowing the undermining of the ability of parents to raise upstanding members of society

I'm sure there's more......

OK...now I wait for the volley of abuse in return...!

**pete376403** · 23rd November 2006, 16:26

Originally Posted by Motu

Songs like Revolution and Imagine are a part of who I am,a hippy struggling in the modern world - I just don't know why the hell people can't get along.....

Another song which says a lot about politics - especially the last two lines.
Although probably better known these days as the theme song of CSI Miami

We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgement of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again

The change, it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fold, that's all
And the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
'Cause the banners, they all flown in the last war

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
No, no!

I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
For I know that the hypnotized never lie

Do ya?

There's nothing in the street
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Is now the parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

**jrandom** · 23rd November 2006, 16:41

Originally Posted by judecatmad

Where to start? ...

Fair points all. I refrain from berating our Gubmint for them, however, because the alternative is bleaker. Better inefficiency than poverty and misery.

And, quite frankly, we do need a Coastguard, but we don't have the resources to defend this country worth a damn, so why play pretend at it?

I personally have two kids and a stay-at-home wife, and I'm at the magic income point where I get nothing from Working for Families, but don't have a six-figure income with cream on top to make up for it. However, I'm hardly starving; it seems selfish to begrudge the tax I pay.

The education reform cock-ups trouble me, though.

**scumdog** · 23rd November 2006, 16:44

Originally Posted by Fish

Would one of you Helen-hating types please explain what it is you don't like about her?

Apart from her physical looks, her lack of honesty, her lack of integrity and a million other things I haven't got time to write?????

I feel a "what DO you like about her" would be a better turn of phrase.

**MSTRS:Me** · 23rd November 2006, 16:51

Originally Posted by judecatmad

Where to start? Not all of this is directly attributable to uncle Helen, but as leader of her party and of the country, she takes the flak for it all.......

I'm sure there's more......

OK...now I wait for the volley of abuse in return...!

No flak from this quarter.
And you forgot the things she will be remembered for doing as PM....passed off a painting as her own by signing it (decried Michael Laws for a similar stunt), instructed her minders to break the law in the motorcade incident (when there was a viable alternative), has packed her cabinet with seriously dodgy front benchers (Mallard, Benson-Pope, Field (was he in the cabinet) etc etc

**jrandom** · 23rd November 2006, 16:54

Originally Posted by scumdog

Apart from her physical looks

Oh, come on. What are you, man, Brad Pitt? From this moment on, I demand that I only ever be arrested by attractive police officers...

Originally Posted by scumdog

her lack of honesty, her lack of integrity...

Paintergate? Gimme a break. Blame, rather, the media for completely failing to have a sense of humour when necessary.

Originally Posted by scumdog

a million other things I haven't got time to write?????

Tut tut.

True story, I used that line to bolster an argument in a primary-school debating competition. I got away with it, but I was 8 years old and nobody was listening.

Originally Posted by scumdog

what DO you like about her

She's slick; she almost never slips up and shoot herself in the foot, and thereby avoids my having endure eye-rollingly bad tabloid-journalism attacks instead of hearing about real issues. Also, I agree with her in several substantial respects on social and economic policy.

**Ixion** · 23rd November 2006, 16:55

Originally Posted by Motu

,,We need a revolution.....

You called. Comrade ?
And since everyone seems to be into songs :

The people's flag is deepest red,
It shrouded oft our martyred dead,
And ere their limbs grew stiff and cold,
Their hearts blood dyed its every fold.

Then raise the scarlet standard high. (chorus)
Within its shade we'll live and die,
Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer,
We'll keep the red flag flying here.

Look round, the Frenchman loves its blaze,
The sturdy German chants its praise,
In Moscow's vaults its hymns are sung
Chicago swells the surging throng.

It waved above our infant might,
When all ahead seemed dark as night;
It witnessed many a deed and vow,
We must not change its colour now.

It well recalls the triumphs past,
It gives the hope of peace at last;
The banner bright, the symbol plain,
Of human right and human gain.

It suits today the weak and base,
Whose minds are fixed on pelf and place
To cringe before the rich man's frown,
And haul the sacred emblem down.

With heads uncovered swear we all
To bear it onward till we fall;
Come dungeons dark or gallows grim,
This song shall be our parting hymn.

**Indoo** · 23rd November 2006, 16:59

Originally Posted by Fish

Would one of you Helen-hating types please explain what it is you don't like about her?

I think she was fine in her first term, but since then she has progressively become more and more divorced from reality. The complete hypocrisy around the whole motorcade incident sealed it for me though.

**chanceyy** · 23rd November 2006, 17:01

well well well

can not say i am sorry .. brash is a a total wet blanket, & along with ALL of the other polititians who are totally unscrupulous, deceptive, & worse than a kindergarten full of kiddies