Drink drivers on the telly - f**ks sake

**Edbear** · 9th December 2006, 20:04

Originally Posted by Kendog

Did you see the dickhead on the 6.00pm news tonight.

What is wrong with these people?

Yep, saw the lamebrain! Not sure how "edited" the clip was, but he didn't seem to have any grasp of the seriousness of his actions.

Same as wrong with a guy I met the other week who lost his licence for DIC. His attitude? "Oh well, not the first time, won't be the last." 'Cept this nong wasn't 16 he would have been mid-twenty's.

Should have the same penalties as in Germany, according to my Son-in-Law. You first get locked up and then more than likely locked up some more. You lose your licence and it's so difficult and expensive to get it back, most never do. Apparently drink-driving rate is very low there...

No excuse for drink-driving IMHO! Nor driving under the influence of any other drug that may impare your skill and attention. Any one caught DIC should have the book thrown at them!

**Swoop** · 9th December 2006, 20:23

Originally Posted by jimjim

i dont see your logic there

Look at the skills of the sober driver perhaps?

**pervert** · 10th December 2006, 09:45

Originally Posted by WINJA

RUBBISH .
DRINK DRIVING IS ONE OF THE FEW TRAFFIC THINGS I LIKE TO SEE THE PIGS TARGETING, EVEN THE CURRENT BREATH ALCOHOL LIMIT MAY BE TO HIGH

You're not overly bright are you?

I would rather much travel in a car with a driver of decent ability with a few drinks under his/her belt, than some of the drivers you encounter on the roads who are completely sober. Fact.

**Beemer** · 10th December 2006, 10:02

Originally Posted by pervert

You're not overly bright are you?

I would rather much travel in a car with a driver of decent ability with a few drinks under his/her belt, than some of the drivers you encounter on the roads who are completely sober. Fact.

I'd rather be with WINJA if he's not overly bright than accept your twisted logic - because you are incredibly stupid!

I suppose you're one of those idiots who was brought up to think he/she can drive better after a few drinks, that it sharpens your eyesight and makes you a better driver. BULLSHIT!!!

Yes, there are some people who drive like absolute pillocks when they are completely sober and are a danger on the roads, but there is no way I'd be happy climbing into a car with a driver of ANY ability who has "a few drinks under his/her belt" because driving with a certain level of alcohol is ILLEGAL and dangerous. Everyone has a different capacity for alcohol and while one person (as shown on a television experiment a few months ago) could drink five or six drinks and still remain perfectly lucid and handle the tasks given to them, another person may show the effects after just one drink. There are so many factors involved that judging someone by the fact they are a decent driver when sober so you'd happily trust them when they have been drinking has got to be THE most stupid thing I've ever read on this site - and that's saying something!

**pervert** · 10th December 2006, 10:23

Originally Posted by Beemer

I'd rather be with WINJA if he's not overly bright than accept your twisted logic - because you are incredibly stupid!

I suppose you're one of those idiots who was brought up to think he/she can drive better after a few drinks, that it sharpens your eyesight and makes you a better driver. BULLSHIT!!!

Yes, there are some people who drive like absolute pillocks when they are completely sober and are a danger on the roads, but there is no way I'd be happy climbing into a car with a driver of ANY ability who has "a few drinks under his/her belt" because driving with a certain level of alcohol is ILLEGAL and dangerous. Everyone has a different capacity for alcohol and while one person (as shown on a television experiment a few months ago) could drink five or six drinks and still remain perfectly lucid and handle the tasks given to them, another person may show the effects after just one drink. There are so many factors involved that judging someone by the fact they are a decent driver when sober so you'd happily trust them when they have been drinking has got to be THE most stupid thing I've ever read on this site - and that's saying something!

No I don't think I drive better when I've had a few, I rarely drive when I have even had one drink. So 'suppose' all you like, you now look like an idiot too.

I think your post would have to win some kind of award for stating the most obvious facts in one post. What shocking revelations you have uncovered.

The fact is, there are plenty of drivers out there who drive worse when sober, than half pissed people. You just can't argue with that, you only need to drive the roads on any given day to notice it.

I'm not saying driving drunk is right by any means, but I am saying crappy drivers being allowed to drive sober is wrong also.

As a side note, plenty of things are "ILLEGAL and dangerous", yet I bet you don't steer clear from them all.

Furthermore, not once did I say I would happily get in any car with a drunk driver, all I said was which I would prefer. You have no means of judging a crappy sober drivers ability before you get into the car either, there is no difference. Get a fucking clue.

**RT527** · 10th December 2006, 10:37

Fact ...Driver who Caused 2 deaths down the road Which I attented was only 10 mgms over the Limit.

As we Responded from the station we were listening to the Radio channel which at that time was linked to the Police Channel, The first officer to arrive was highly stress while talking to North comms that the car was on fire with 2 people trapped in it and had the Fire service been Notified?,
We had and as I turned left onto h/way 2 and started heading for Paeroa ( I was driving the first Truck which was the rescue Tender) we could see a plume of Smoke rising in the distance , at this point my heart sank as at this stage we still had 5 km to drive and I knew damn well that we would never get there in time, still i had the truck doing 118 which is still faster than our limit(fire services ) in an attempt to get there faster. When we finally arrived , before we stopped all in the truck knew it was too late, but we had to do something so we started to put the fire out, at this stage our 2nd truck arrived and had to take over because once the smoke cleared we realised that there was another car involved and someone was still trapped in it.
We moved over to that car and started to extract the drunk driver of the vehicle which had just caused the deaths of 2 Innocent victims, all the while he couldn`t stop complaining to us.
once we had him out and with nothing else to be done we headed back to station and started a debreif session, halfway through this the rescue crew were called back to the accident after the police had surveyed the scene to extract the Bodies from the car.

Guess what Im saying is these accidents dont just affect the drunk person or the victem!, you also have the family`s,both drunk person and victems + friends of both, the firefighters and their familys , Ambo`s and familys, police and familys the list goes on this can be literally hundreds of people.

So if anyone thinks its cool to drive drunk then you`ed better not come near me and say it, I`m more than likely respond rather violently towards you.

Zero tolerance for drunk driving is a must!!!!!!!!.

Its xmas time again and our call rate for accidents and deaths resulting from the effects of drunk/driving fatigued and just plain stupidity is allready starting to rise so lets all get a life and say no to drinking and driving.....For your sake your life and others may depend on it.

**sAsLEX** · 10th December 2006, 10:42

Originally Posted by RT527

Zero tolerance for drunk driving is a must!!!!!!!!.

Its xmas time again and our call rate for accidents and deaths resulting from the effects of drunk/driving fatigued and just plain stupidity is allready starting to rise so lets all get a life and say no to drinking and driving.....For your sake your life and others may depend on it.

Yeah stuff double demerits and shit over the Christmas break as that does nothing to help.

Halve or reduce the alcohol limit to zero and have a heavy presence on the road to stop DiC's.

**WINJA** · 10th December 2006, 12:18

Originally Posted by pervert

You're not overly bright are you?

I would rather much travel in a car with a driver of decent ability with a few drinks under his/her belt, than some of the drivers you encounter on the roads who are completely sober. Fact.

YOUR ONE OF THOSE WHO HAVENT GOT IT THRU THEIR SKULL YET

**Ixion** · 10th December 2006, 12:27

Perhaps the significant word in Mr Pervert's post was "few".

There is no objective evidence that small quantities of alcohol affect driving ability.

The issue is usually presented in highly emotive terms : only to the wowser does one drink = drunk.

Statistical data appears to back this up . Where alcohol-related driving failure is implicated as a cause of crashes almost always the alchohol level is WAY over the 80 wozzinames per diddlyfar limit. In other words, the "drunk" drivers who are a danger on the roads really ARE drunk. The people who have had a "few" drinks, are within the present limits, are not a danger.

Since the danger is posed by people who are significantly in excess of the presen tlimit - i.e. they ignore the present law, what on earth makes anyone suppose that they would pay any greater heed to a revised, lower limit law.

Of course prohibitionists (still an amazingly vocal minority) will have none of this. All alcohol is evil .

**RT527** · 10th December 2006, 12:45

Since the danger is posed by people who are significantly in excess of the presen tlimit - i.e. they ignore the present law, what on earth makes anyone suppose that they would pay any greater heed to a revised, lower limit law.

Well since as i stated in my post that he was only 10 mgns over the limit when he was tested , I`d have to say that he would have been quite away over when he left the Airport, (he`d apparently just dropped his sister off to the airport for a flight) the point is while alcohol is a factor in the majority of accidents, its usually combined with another effect like driving tired, a moments inatention, adverse weather, wet roads, or something out of normal control like a mechanical problem.

**Beemer** · 10th December 2006, 15:00

Originally Posted by pervert

blah blah blah... So 'suppose' all you like, you now look like an idiot too. blah blah blah

heaps more blah blah blah

blah blah blah... Get a fucking clue.

Sorry, but I stand my my original viewpoint - you're a fucken' tosser.

And Ixion, who knows how many 'a few' is? To some people it could mean two or three 150ml glasses of wine, to others 10 or 12 pints. Very subjective and everyone is affected differently.