Takas closed/partially blocked (21 January)

**Crasherfromwayback** · 21st January 2007, 20:14

Originally Posted by jimbo600

What a load of cock. There a good rail system there that could easily be put to use. Similar to the logging truck situation where they had to put the logs on the train.

And yeah I'd happily pay a little extra over having some b train on my side of the road or worse topple over on me.

I'm with you.....should've 'cut' the fucking tunnel a bit wider in the first place....then the dipshit cage pilots and trucks wouldn't go near the hill!

**apteryx_haasti** · 21st January 2007, 21:20

I already posted this in the "Ladies..." thread - apparently the clean up on the takas includes cleaning up the load of SOAP POWDER that the truck-trailer was carrying. As well as the oil/diesel.

BE careful if you're heading over that in the morning, I guess!

Take care, everyone.

**skelstar** · 21st January 2007, 21:22

I *was* going to wash my bike tomorrow...

**Beemer** · 21st January 2007, 22:26

Glad we went to the airshow on Saturday and also glad we go over the top and down the Wairarapa, I wouldn't have been impressed to be a few cars back in the queue in the event of an accident on the hill. We were moaning enough about the extra 20 minutes or so due to the road being closed at Aokautere, requiring a detour via Ashhurst.

**Dadpole** · 21st January 2007, 23:31

I got caught up in that on the way back from the Hutt and spent 3 hours waiting before they let through the 20 or so of us. One lane was clear all the time with no sign of load spillage. They closed the the whole road for scene investigation and to allow a clear road for the recovery crane.
It was a nasty sight, with no sign of the car. The truck was lying almost flat on its side, so the car would have been well crushed. I felt sorry for Dave, one of our local firemen, when I saw him having to get under there by the car.

**RT527** · 22nd January 2007, 19:43

Originally Posted by jimbo600

What a load of cock. There a good rail system there that could easily be put to use. Similar to the logging truck situation where they had to put the logs on the train.

And yeah I'd happily pay a little extra over having some b train on my side of the road or worse topple over on me.

So because motorcycles crash and kill the rider and driver of the car he hit are we gonna ban them too...oh and shit the train just derailed and took out a family of 4 ...must..ban..train...fuc cessna crashed in local cemetry rescuers are working through the night to recover the body`s last count 700 and expected to rise hourly...must ban all light aircraft... ferry sinks and 300 lives are lost , oh dear cant flippin have that now can we.....Ban ferrys!!!.

Without trucks you can expect anything by rail to either get there 3 weeks later /broken or not at all.
So when you want that part for your bike that is couriered overnight on a TRUCK and is in your hand or on your bike the next morning so you can use it , it was there because of a truck!!!.

You could send it by rail...BWahahahahahahah but dont expect to ride your bike anytime in the next century!!!.

**jimbo600** · 22nd January 2007, 20:18

Originally Posted by RT527

So because motorcycles crash and kill the rider and driver of the car he hit are we gonna ban them too...oh and shit the train just derailed and took out a family of 4 ...must..ban..train...fuc cessna crashed in local cemetry rescuers are working through the night to recover the body`s last count 700 and expected to rise hourly...must ban all light aircraft... ferry sinks and 300 lives are lost , oh dear cant flippin have that now can we.....Ban ferrys!!!.

Without trucks you can expect anything by rail to either get there 3 weeks later /broken or not at all.
So when you want that part for your bike that is couriered overnight on a TRUCK and is in your hand or on your bike the next morning so you can use it , it was there because of a truck!!!.

You could send it by rail...BWahahahahahahah but dont expect to ride your bike anytime in the next century!!!.

Well I may be mistaken but I've never nearly been collected by a ferry over the takas. But I sure as hell have had to evade a number of trucks going over there. And that particular road has been closed a number of times due to trucks hitting cars and themselves.

But I see your point. Stopping trucks going over the takas (mainly cattle trucks) would severely interrupt logistics all over NZ. I mean I wouldn't want my performance parts ordered from the US arriving next century because a stocktruck had to go via a different route.

Personally I say ban SUVs campervans, and people towing horse boxes too.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 22nd January 2007, 20:31

Originally Posted by jimbo600

Well I may be mistaken but I've never nearly been collected by a ferry over the takas. But I sure as hell have had to evade a number of trucks going over there. And that particular road has been closed a number of times due to trucks hitting cars and themselves.

Personally I say ban SUVs campervans, and people towing horse boxes too.

Let alone the fucking diesel and shit that spills out of them.
C*nting trucks.....

**elle-f** · 22nd January 2007, 20:45

Originally Posted by jimbo600

Well I may be mistaken but I've never nearly been collected by a ferry over the takas.

OMG you haven't? I nearly have and it wasn't pretty!

**Crasherfromwayback** · 22nd January 2007, 20:58

Originally Posted by elle33f

OMG you haven't? I nearly have and it wasn't pretty!

Not THAT sort of ferry.....

**jafar** · 22nd January 2007, 21:31

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Let alone the fucking diesel and shit that spills out of them.
C*nting trucks.....

Maybey you should be looking @ the state of the roading network & asking yourself why it is in such a poor state, it isn't through lack of money thats for sure. Less than half of what is collected in RUC charges from the transport industry is allocated to the roading network & that doesn't take into account the petrol taxes you pay when you fill up your car or bike!
Include that figure & the ratio is less than 30% of collected revenue from the roads is put back to the roading network.

**jumma** · 22nd January 2007, 22:14

Two of us were heading back from Napier enjoying an ice cream just out of Masterton when a dude passing on a Blackbird saw us, and told us of the closure. This was at 3.30ish and he said it was going to be another few hours.
We already had plans to go for a dip in the river so took off towards Martinborough, had our swim, then headed out to Featherston to see what was up. 6 o'clockish we got to the intersection when Stew from TSS jumped out infront of us to tell us it was still shut and was likely to be open about 8ish.
Tossed up whether to find some accomodation or wait it out, so we headed to Greytown for a feed and to waste some more time. Got back to the pub in Featherston about 8ish and all the bikes had gone! So we crawled up the right hand side of the road (passing the kilometres of cars lined up) and arrived at the twin bridges where about 20 or so bikes had amassed at the road closed barrier. It was now 8.30 and we had word it would be another hour. Finally at ten we were back on the bikes waiting for our police escort to take just the bikes up through the accident site, and then we had the hill to ourselves and were back in town by 11.
Was sorry to hear it was a fatal accident and I really felt bad for the rescue services who had to deal with not only the crash and clean up but the thousand of motorists getting pissed at them for doing their job.
With SH1 being blocked as well it really pointed out how inaccessible Wellington can become sometimes.

Big ups must go to Stew for keeping all the bikers informed and even shouting them all a drink at the pub as they turned up

**Crasherfromwayback** · 23rd January 2007, 00:19

Originally Posted by jafar

Maybey you should be looking @ the state of the roading network & asking yourself why it is in such a poor state,

It's hardly the roading network's problem that half of the fat arseholes driving trucks spill diesel everywhere out of the tanks they forget to put the caps back on. And the liquid shit that poors out of the cattle trucks? Is that the roading networks problem too?

**James Deuce** · 23rd January 2007, 05:39

RT527 has a personal stake in the trucking business, so he's hardly likely to be unbiased in his arguments.

Bit like bikers really.

But I think he's deliberately missing the point. Most other "developed" countries use rail to shift bulk goods, and certainly don't send B Trains over alpine passes. HGVs (as they are called in Europe) are used for transcontinental work, not 70 kilometer trips to move soap powder around. I was once missed by inches by one of those giant mining dump trucks on the Rimutakas, and that was while pulled over in a passing bay, as far away as possible from the other side of the road.

They've banned logging trucks on the Rimutakas, time to get rid of all vehicles over 20 tonnes, not just because of fatal accidents either. If it has a trailer, it can't complete that 13km stretch of road without spending some time on the wrong side of the road. That isn't acceptable, and neither is the stress it puts on the braking system of a fully loaded 42 tonne vehicle.