We only have ourselves to blame for that, and we can't develop it, if we don't use it.
We only have ourselves to blame for that, and we can't develop it, if we don't use it.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
That was in 1987, Prebble used it as an excuse to sell Rail (Save Rail, yeah right) to his fat-cat mates, Fay/Richwhite did extremely well out of us on that one.
If he'd put the same energy into fixing the problems, we'd now have a usable long distance freight system backed up by road freight. But with fewer trucks on our inadequate roads.
Speed doesn't kill people.
Stupidity kills people.
No not missing the point , I understand the point.
If its too hard ban it, seems to be the flavour of the month, let us not forget that we pay a much bigger slice of taxes to use the roads.
However I am all for rail taking the bulk of freight but I still cant see them getting it Right.
I have delivered freight to rail heads and its still a shambles.
What i find upsetting is that most people are calling for banning of trucks on a personal basis , IE I want to have a play but cant because theres lots of trucks that might kill me.
I have to drive one of the biggest combinations in the country at the moment back from whitianga fully loaded either to Tauranga or Auckland ports, and most of the time I spend over the centre line on the two main hills, Tairua And Kopu-hikuai`s , However I come to an almost stop on most of the blind corners because I know that some dick head coming over the hill will be hugging or over the centre line.
It all comes down to Being Professional about your work and I try My hardest at this.
Sorry If I seem biased , But im sick of people saying ban this or cant say that or cant do this.
Its my life I`ll do what I friggan want .
Yes you are.
B Trains can't cross the Rimutakas without going on the wrong side of the road at some point. They shouldn't be using it for heavy freight, the road isn't designed for it. The rail tunnel was put in specifically for freight first, passengers second. They should use it instead of risking the lives of people not really expecting to be crushed by a truck with no brakes.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Ive taken 40 foot trailers over the Taka`s which cut in excessivly more than a B train ever will, and I can say that on only 1 or 3 corners that I can remember did i cross the centre line.
Most of the ones that cross the line are driving too fast for the conditions...and the road to Whitianga is far worse than the Takas are for corners and the whiritoa gorge is even worse!!!.
Read my previous and read through every flamin thing I`ve written.
I slow down well in advance of any stage of having to cross the centre line.
I make sure that nothing is coming as much as possible , therefore I reiterate its not the vehicles rather the road/Driver/conditions etc etc.
And as i said Before I agree things should go by rail...IF THEY CAN SOUGHT THEIR SHIT OUT.
Until then stop trying to ban things cause it goes bad now and again.
Haven't seen any 40ft trailers since they banned logging trucks on the Rimutakas. I know you do your best, but it isn't acceptable to cross the centre line. If the road can't take the traffic then the traffic shouldn't be on it.
I wrote my TRX off because of a truck clipping the hill, rupturing its diesel tank and pulling down half a corner, so I am a bit biased. I don't understand how you can think it is OK for trucks and truck drivers to continually cause serious accidents that threaten and sometimes take life and limb.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
I've come across quite a few dark blue stationwagons on my side of centre up there too. Fuckers.
I think the crash at Manakau (Levin) today involved a truck and a car, several fatalaties. That happened on SH1, wouldn't want to suggest we ban trucks there too would we?.
Trucks are a part of our countries infrastructure, just like our fucked up roading network. We have to live with it and unfortunately way too many of us are dying with it also. How retarded is country going to get if certain vehicles were banned from certain highways. We'd need coloured lines along the road like the floors in hospital corridoors. It's going to take another 50 years to fix this problem unless we sell the whole place to the Chinese.
There is no excuse at all for any vehicle crossing the centreline on a blind bend (or, indeed, at all, except obviously for overtaking).
If large trucks cannot negotiate the roads without crossing the line, the obvious answer seems to be to use smaller trucks. The rare instance where a very large lorry is needed for an oversize load , have pilot vehicles (as at present).
The trend toward monstrous oversize American trucks is driven by one thing only, profits for the trucking companies. They are no doubt suitable for US freeways, but not suitable for our much more demanding roads.
If it won't fit on the roads, it should not be on the roads.
I know of at least one motorcyclist killed by a truck taking up two lanes to do a left turn.
Originally Posted by skidmark
Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
Exactly, by your account you appear to be the best truckie in NZ and you still have to cross the centerline, which therefore augments my original statement that they should be banned from the Takas. Its not the driver, its just that they're too big for a bit of road that wasn't designed for them.
Superdukes. Serving up shame to sportsbikes since ages ago.
Just out of curiosity (sp?) since when have logging trucks been banned from the hill... although a good idea, I never knew that...and been told thats rubbish.
on a side note: is it safe for a noobie to go up there tom morning? Have they cleaned the soap off the road.
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