Takas closed/partially blocked (21 January)

[James Deuce]

[Ixion]

Leave the truckies out of it ...they are just trying to pay there wages in an understaffed under paid industry

Not the truck drivers fault, they just have to do as they're told. The cartage firms (and most of them are big corporations ), that's another matter,. They're gthe ones making the big profits (checked Toll Holdings profit lately?). I know a lot of trucks are owner/driver, but they're mostly contracted to the corporations, and don't actualy get more than a living wage out of it at best.

Smaller trucks actually have a higher point loading on the roads , are usually lower horsepower resulting in more diesel consumption and higher emmisions smaller trucks hurt just as much as big ones you drongos, seems like if it isnt a bike then its not important.
A two axle truck will tip over a lot faster than my Quad axle trailer even with a large/high load on.
your average driver does give a fuck about all the things you mention its the below average truckie that we need to re train or tell to piss off.

The issue was big trucks crossing the centre line. I don't really give a stuff about emissions, there's Geenies to worry about that. What I DO care about is not finding a humungeous Yank truck barrelling toward me n my side of the road, cos he can't fit around the corner any other way.

And if the truck tips easily, easy answer, reduce the load.

Our company has a policy of if your going to go over your hours for the day we will book you into a motel, this has only come about since they started giving tickets to dispatches. This is happining more often with most companys now because the dispatcher and owner of the co can be held accountable for his drivers actions.

Too right. Hold the capitalists responsible, not the poor sod who just follows orders.

Oh yeah and profit margins is where it is all at , if they dont make a profit they start sacking people until theres no one to work for them , then they go overseas to china and pay someone a dollar a day to do the same job, then where will our economy be?, ..

Well, I've got an answer to that problem. Though how are freight firms going to pay someone in China to deliver freight in NZ ?

(BTW, even when they DO make a profit , like as not they still sack the people, cos China's cheaper. Until Kiwis are working for a dollar a day too. Air NZ anyone?)

[RT527]

What I DO care about is not finding a humungeous Yank truck barrelling toward me n my side of the road, cos he can't fit around the corner any other way.

Yeah only thing i can say is if hes barreling round a corner he shouldnt be driving.....I went to whitianga again on thursday , and I made a point of trying to stay in my lane......i could do it on most corners but there was one or two that I couldnt do it and had to go over the centre line , I was only doing 10 kmph tho and was very weary of oncoming vehicles. reason i go this slow is if anythings going to happen at least they have a chance of correcting and going around me.

My trailer would only cross about a foot over at the most on the last two axles befor the steering axles take effect and bring it back to my side.


Another point , there has been 4 accidents in the last week of trucks versus cars.......i`ll word it correctly now..Cars Versus Trucks.(cept the takas one.)

The takas one was the only one that wasnt the car drivers fault , the one in manakau the driver lost control and crossed to centre line, the next on the napier -taupo rd ...same thing.

then there was one last night in which a car crossed over to the wrong side of the road and hit a parked milk tanker.....what I want to know is where are the howls of protest coming from you guys about these cars crossing the centre line !.

Sorry i couldnt resist it ...it has nothing to do with the origanal post , but it makes you think about how many of the accidents are actually caused by the truck driver.

[Ixion]

Another point , there has been 4 accidents in the last week of trucks versus cars.......i`ll word it correctly now..Cars Versus Trucks.(cept the takas one.)

The takas one was the only one that wasnt the car drivers fault , the one in manakau the driver lost control and crossed to centre line, the next on the napier -taupo rd ...same thing.

then there was one last night in which a car crossed over to the wrong side of the road and hit a parked milk tanker.....what I want to know is where are the howls of protest coming from you guys about these cars crossing the centre line !.

Sorry i couldnt resist it ...it has nothing to do with the origanal post , but it makes you think about how many of the accidents are actually caused by the truck driver.

You answered your own question. Why are there no howls of protest about cars crossing the centre line? Because when a car crosses the centre line it's incompetant idiot drivers. Which we do all protest about. But there's no point in singling out one aspect of their incompetance.

But trucks over the centre line is a different matter. That's not down to the driver (well, not always , anyway). Often, as you have stated, the driver HAS NO CHOICE. He is FORCED to do something that is obviously dangerous. Do you not see how stupid that is - that the authorities allow vehicles to be used (and usually, it's not the driver that makes that choice, he's just doing his job) which HAVE to be driven dangerously ?

[jimbo600]

Yeah only thing i can say is if hes barreling round a corner he shouldnt be driving.....I went to whitianga again on thursday , and I made a point of trying to stay in my lane......i could do it on most corners but there was one or two that I couldnt do it and had to go over the centre line , I was only doing 10 kmph tho and was very weary of oncoming vehicles. reason i go this slow is if anythings going to happen at least they have a chance of correcting and going around me.

My trailer would only cross about a foot over at the most on the last two axles befor the steering axles take effect and bring it back to my side.


Another point , there has been 4 accidents in the last week of trucks versus cars.......i`ll word it correctly now..Cars Versus Trucks.(cept the takas one.)

The takas one was the only one that wasnt the car drivers fault , the one in manakau the driver lost control and crossed to centre line, the next on the napier -taupo rd ...same thing.

then there was one last night in which a car crossed over to the wrong side of the road and hit a parked milk tanker.....what I want to know is where are the howls of protest coming from you guys about these cars crossing the centre line !.

Sorry i couldnt resist it ...it has nothing to do with the origanal post , but it makes you think about how many of the accidents are actually caused by the truck driver.

I'd have to say that of all the car vs truck accidents most of the blame is afforded to the car driver. Truck drivers are probably the most professional and experienced drivers on the roads.

[Str8 Jacket]

I went over the Takas today on my way back from Napier. I hated it. Despite scraping my boots through a few of the corners I noticed how badly in need of repair the road is! I absolutely hated how long I was held up in traffic for over most of the hill. It was a huuge let down after I was looking so forward to it! In all fairness though I have just ridden 3-4000 k's of road up North back to Akld to Napier then Wellys so maybe I was just being pedantic...

[Wasp]

I nearly binned it on wednesday night, fucking hoons - slow down!

[Madness]

I nearly binned it on wednesday night, fucking hoons - slow down!

You been getting your knee down again Doug?

[Wasp]

no but i got it this close (-1cm-) to the armco after locking (part locking?) both the front and the rear and drifting the bike fully sideways (any closer and i would have probably broken my leg or something)

after it didnt lowside im fuggin lucky it didnt throw me off over the bank when it tipped up again too

lesson learnt though - dont try catch pgtr when he's had a head start, the takas are poked and you havnt been riding for 3 months