Tyre choice for adventure riding? (Mixing road and off-road)

[oldrider]

My trialling of these tyres has indicated to me that the 33 psi max is too low and the tyre will very likely fail if adhered to, especially under load!

I have received an E-mail from "Shinko" NZ importer distributors (Whites) advising me to increase the Max to 36 psi cold.

They also advise that manufacturing will be altered to reflect this on the tyre wall in the future.

Note: I am not advising anybody to change what they are doing, just saying what I am doing!

I am going to re trial mine at 36 psi cold asap in exactly the same conditions as I did today.

Our test ride today had the tyre too hot to hold to and showing an increase in pressure to 38+ psi.

That was just the bare bike and two up ridden 30 miles on a private sealed road @ about 70 mph!

I am contemplating a trip North at the end of this month, two up and loaded to the max!

IMHO the tyre would fail under those conditions at 33 psi (cold) !

I am particularly keen to see an improvement with the higher pressure (from cold) without the extreme rise in temperature under load!

It will be interesting to see what the (hot) pressure increases to as well.

When I first ran the tyres, they were accidently inflated to 36 & 42 as per usual for the radials and they ran as cool as cucumbers!

The rear tyre got a lot hotter when I reduced it to the required 33 psi even with an unloaded bike!

Mind you it was after getting a bit of a work out on that private road!

If anyone wants a copy of the E-mail from Whites, PM me your address and I will E-mail it to you.

[That looks like fun]

When I was just a puppy I was told that the pressure should rise by no more than 2 psi between a cold tyre and a hot tyre. If it did then the pressure was too low.
Could be a load of bollocks but just felt like typing something

[oldrider]

Shinko's seem OK so far, as long as I lift my pressure in the rear to match my load!

I am running mine at:

Front between 30-33 psi. set cold. (increases by 3 psi when hot)

Rear 36 psi light bike, 38 psi rider & pillion, 40 psi fully loaded. set cold. (increases by 6 psi when hot)

How many Km they last for will of course be very interesting!

I have found them to be very good in all conditions and all terrain!

They do feel rather weird when you first hit a patch of wet shiny black seal. (I did this in heavy rain, often.)

I chucked the Tiger about a bit on some of it but it stayed right on course no drama, just felt funny!

[NordieBoy]

Sounding good.

[dino3310]

Sounding good.

shit mate dont you sleep

[warewolf]

Useful page explaining tyre sizing differences:
MICHELIN OFF-ROAD TIRE SIZING EXPLAINED

[oldrider]

Sounding good.

1348 miles of mixed riding now on the Shinko's, looking good, feeling good, apart from the little splice release, which doesn't seem to have changed much anyway!

Mrs O and I went for a ride across the Dansey Pass yesterday and I was very pleased with them in the gravel on the day!

All the vehicles we caught up to pulled over and let us pass, one oh-shit moment with a ewe and lamb, very windy both ways, road was in excellent condition!

The Shinko bias ply's do feel a bit different but they do feel as good or better than any other tyre I have used on the Tiger!

Cold (psi) pressures were: 30 front 38 rear.

I leave the front at 30 psi the rear at 36 psi and only increase the pressure of the rear tyre 2 psi per person weight, cold!

Dynabeads in for balance and keep speed below 6,000 revs in sixth (Q rating) and so far everything seems sweet!

Edit: Removed lead, grams: Front 60gm. Rear 50gm.

Just gotta see how far the Shinko's will go now!

[cold comfort]

Reading this with interest as am having a Shinko fitted to the front of the DR before the Back of Beyond next weekend. The Trailwing is too low and rounded off for the length of the trip i fear. Will be able to report on the performance later no doubt!

[cold comfort]

well after sveral hundred k's on all surfaces i am quite satisfied with the performance of the Shinko so far. Somewhat whiney on the road i notice tho. Certainly cheap as chips also. The front started to wash out on only one corner but i suspect it was more my fault. The balding Trailwing on the back held out well except in slippery mud, dumping me uncerimoniously at the side of the river crossing! I'm suitably impressed enough to replace the rear with a Shinko also. The guy i was following had a complete set and was also very happy with them.

[NordieBoy]

well after sveral hundred k's on all surfaces i am quite satisfied with the performance of the Shinko so far. Somewhat whiney on the road i notice tho.

Shinko 244 or 705?

[junkmanjoe]

two free tires.............
90/90/21 mitas E-09

130/80/17 mitas E-09

aprox 3 mil tread

FREE to a good home.

JMJ

[cold comfort]

Shinko 244 or 705?

244's as it happens. I took what Advance were able to source at the time rather than any preference.

[NordieBoy]

244's as it happens. I took what Advance were able to source at the time rather than any preference.

Don't like the 244 front. Didn't really do anything wrong but didn't inspire confidence.

I do like the 244 rear though. Slides predictably and good everywhere.

The Mitas E-07 rear is better virtually everywhere though

[_Shrek_]

The Mitas E-07 rear is better virtually everywhere though

have just gone back to Eo 9's coz of where i've been ridiing, but have just got 22700 k's out of my rear Eo7 will post a pick as soon as i can, mostly HW runing from Canterbury to Central Otago

[.chris]

Just wanted a 2nd opinion on these tires, done about 11,000km and they started to feel unstable at tarmac speeds, not sure if it is just tire pressure.

Anyway, they still have some tread left, so keep them? or bin em and move on?
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