Te Kuiti cop: taking him 2 court

[Cajun]

Sprocket change should not affect speedo reading as most bikes speedo is driven from front wheel.

most modern bikes run of front sprocket drive, so changing sprockets does mess them up

[Naki Rat]

Fuck me, I despair.

"Ok this is big bitch, was heading to Tauranga on Friday 10 October just gone past the turn off that heads towards Taupo ( just south of Te Kuiti) and some oncoming traffic flashed their lights to let me know about the cop that sits on that straight all the time.
I was following a Ute as I went past doing under 100 after going round the first corner I passed the Ute before heading down the twisty bumpy part as I got down the bottom of the hill my radar beeped looking down I was doing 106 so kept going at about 105 as I got near the end of the little straight I looked in the mirror & saw him just coming onto the straight, as I came into the 75k corner I had just come up on 2 cars and as we exited the corner I blipped it past them and headed down the straight at a speed no more than 106ks as I knew the cop was coming behind me as we were going down the big straight I could not see if he was still coming as the cars behind me blocked my view until we were three quarters down the straight I saw him passing the 2 cars as he got past the last car he put his lights on and pulled me up.
I was happy to pull up as I did nothing wrong.
The first thing he hit me up for was my number plate that is not standard and said he was going to give me a ticket for that then he said he was giving me a ticket for doing 115 down the big straight. I then got pissed and said fuck off as I made sure I did not speed and the fastest I got up to was 106 down the straight.
so I am taking this to court.
I am paying the fine for the number plate as fair's fair but the speed he is taking the piss out of me"

Probably missed some, and I'm not even going to start on the punctuation omissions.

The standard of literacy in posts never ceases to amaze, and this is a stunner. If you intend pursuing this in court do yourself a favour and get any written submissions from you checked so the magistrate can actually understand what it is you claim not to have done :slap:

[roogazza]

sorry for not being perfect with my spelling but I do my best as I am alliterate if that's ok with YOU

Just make sure you have a Lawyer who is not ALLITERATE ! I'm sure you'll be fine ? G.

[imdying]

Sprocket change should not affect speedo reading as most bikes speedo is driven from front wheel.

Maybe back in the eighties...

[Tank]

......... down the bottom of the hill my radar beeped looking down I was doing 106 so kept going at about 105 as I got near the end of the little strait .......at a speed no more than 106ks as I new the cop was coming behind me as we where going down the big strait I could not see if he was still .......and said he was going to give me a ticket for that then he said he was giving me a ticket for doing 115 down the big strait. I then got pissed and said fuck of as I made sure I did not speed and the fastest I got up to was 106 down the strait.
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But as I am 100 percent certain that I was not speeding I WILL BE FU#KED if im going to do the time.

OK - lets start with the last quote first - you cannot be "100% certain that you were not speeding" when you keep saying you were doing 106km - fact is that you were speeding. No point saying you are 100% in the right when you quite clearly state you were breaking the law.

So the variance between your 'view' and the cops 'view' is only 9km ph - many speedo's can be out by that much in fact many speedo's read 10% out direct from the factory - which points to his reading quite possibly being correct.

Sorry guy that you got caught - but you cannot argue that you were doing less than the speed limit without lying in court - so toughen up and take the ticket.

[pritch]

Don't pick on the original poster, the standard of English in this whole thread could be used to demonstrate that the education system is failing. But we knew that anyway...

Most of the advice is incorrect as well. I'm sure our resident will confirm that there is no requirement for the officer to show you the radar reading. He can, but there is no compulsion.

The Police don't have to have a radar reading, I'm sure they can resort to old tech such as following you and checking your speed.

Having said all that, there is an over enthusiastic operator in the area in question and there is a previous thread where a rider was almost run off the road and later had the subsequent charges dismissed in court.

If you really want to go to court, get a lawyer. Otherwise it'd be cheaper to pay up and learn what you can from the experience.

And don't tell me you can't start a sentence with "but", or "and".
I can.

[Gubb]

How do you intend to prove you we're only doing 106, when the Cop says otherwise?

Sworn-officer of the law vs Some guy with a history of speeding.

Do you actually have any proof?

[Grub]

To drag this off topic, but how on earth would changing the sprockets make the speedo read wrong? ?

They can be from anyplace these days. I was just thinking of anything that would change the on-road gearing

[Goblin]

Since when has KiwiBiker been a forum only for people who spell and punctuate to perfection? Christ, you lot picking on spelling oughta get a life! Nothing better to do than try to make yourselves look all superior. Dyslexia is common. Get over yourselves!

Good luck in court Slamdog. If I were you I'd fight the number plate issue too. Take pics to prove it is visible and readable. Sounds like the cop just hates bikers.

[Goblin]

Sworn-officer of the law vs Some guy with a history of speeding.

Yeah like sworn officers NEVER lie! Tui anyone?

http://msn.nzherald.co.nz/category/s...ectid=10537054

[Tank]

Good luck in court Slamdog. If I were you I'd fight the number plate issue too. Take pics to prove it is visible and readable. Sounds like the cop just hates bikers.

He has taken pics - have a look at his profile - a couple of things a bloody obvious (assuming that this is the bike he was pinged on):

1 - That is a nice looking bike.
2 - When hes riding it the plate is in no way going to be reasonable visible.

I believe that hes got no chance of getting off.

Sounds more like KB'ers that just hate cops and are willing to assume that they are all 'out to get them'.

Personal responsibility people - the guy has a plate in a position thats hard to see - his choice - but dont waaaaaaa when he gets caught. Anyone that believes that the plate is in a legal (being fully visible etc) needs their head read - how can you recommend going to court with that?? Talk about bush lawyers!!!

He speeds - big deal - take the ticket like a man.

[CookMySock]

Nar man, get off the damn thing. You don't have to prove anything since you are not making the allegation. If its about money, then it will be cheaper to pay it in this case. If its about the principle and the game of it, then fight it.

Step one is always calling the officers bluff on the roadside - something like "no mate - thats not proof" or "no I wasn't travelling at that speed - I'll deny that in a court of law." Basically make it look like a lot of hard work for nothing for them with an afternoon in court as well.

Step two - wait for the computer printed infringement notice and back on the bluff - "I was not travelling at the alleged speed. I have legal advice and I will defend myself in a court of law."

In court, state that you explained the situation to the irate officer at the scene but he would hear no logic, and that you further explained this in writing which was ignored also, so now you are explaining it to the judge, and that officers assumption in this case is simply incorrect.

I recently got pinged for 119k - I just grinned and paid it. I ran straight into oncoming radar on a straight carless road. He also did me for breach of licence conditions (400bux) as my exemption had actually expired, but I wriggled my way out of that one.

Life is about getting what you want, not doing what you're told.


Steve

[nodrog:Me]

if its the same cop i am thinking of you have probably have no chance in getting off, he does everything by the book (to the point of even giving his wife a speeding ticket). just because he did not offer to show you a radar reading, doesnt mean he does not have one, or he could have paced you with his car.

unless it is your last demerit points, i cant see any point in fighting it, the fine will be way less than what it will cost to fight it, and even if you win its not like you have taught him any kind of lesson, he still gets paid to sit in court all day.

[henry]

Writing a letter is often enough for the cops to put it in the too hard basket. Don't be an arsehole about it because that will just antagonise them and don't mention court. Be polite and get your mum to check your spelling. If that doesn't work I'd pay up because you're guilty.

Of course the cop could be reading this in which case you're screwed both ways.

[scuzeme]

Life is about getting what you want, not doing what you're told.


Steve

Most profound thing ive heard all week you should make it your sig mate.

In regards to the Police officer and the ticket its swings and roundabouts mate you cant fight the man and win and even if you do its prolly gunna cost you $$$.
A friend of mine got pulled over after being clocked doing 180+ on his lovely 999s the cop could have made him walk home instead he ticketed him for 130kmh.
I have been pulled over for dangerous driving and got off and ive also lost my license way back for exceeding demerit points all for speeding.

You have to take the good with the bad and be philosophical will thats what i reckon.

Good luck if you fight it hope you win.