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  1. #1291
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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    They're on their way
    Your going to have to explain or is there a post that I've missed somewhere. What the hell is it???

    Cheers R
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    Quote Originally Posted by cooneyr View Post
    Your going to have to explain or is there a post that I've missed somewhere. What the hell is it???

    Cheers R
    No missed post.

    It's a secret

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    Oh OK then...

    Think better cartridge emulators.
    They've got an inertia valve that responds to the wheel movements and if it's the chassis moving the damping stays harder.

    Racetech emulators work on flow rate. Enough flow and the shim stack bends, bypassing more oil.

    The inventor also invented the rising rate mono shock on most of our bikes. He also developed shocks with the inertia valve for Citroen and with them they won 3 Dakar's in a row.

    He designed these for Harleys but as he rides a DR650...

    Bonus with these is they're tuned for 5w oil so you don't need to drill out the compression holes in the damper rods.
    Pull the forks, remove the springs, drain the oil, drop the intiminators in, fill up with 5W, trim the spacer, put the springs back in, put the forks back in, ride.

    Apparantly they really reduce dive and are still supple over bumps.

    Jesse (Keintech) and Rick (Cogent) both think they've got more potential than the competition.

    Normal price is $300us but there was a weeks special at $150us.
    I don't think they're worth $300 but as I was looking at getting RaceTech emulators anyway $150 was cool...





    You type all that and then click on the button that says "Post quick reply"

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    Racetech emulators work on flow rate. Enough flow and the shim stack bends, bypassing more oil.
    RaceTech emulators are only a poppet valve not a shim stack like in shocks or cartridge forks, that is, just one non-bending shim held by a spring. These new ones actually have a shim stack++.

    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    Bonus with these is they're tuned for 5w oil so you don't need to drill out the compression holes in the damper rods.
    Is that because the DR650 runs greater than 5W as standard? Because otherwise it wouldn't make sense.
    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by warewolf View Post
    Is that because the DR650 runs greater than 5W as standard? Because otherwise it wouldn't make sense.
    10W stock.

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    are they available for really important bikes like klr's??

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    Quote Originally Posted by marks View Post
    are they available for really important bikes like klr's??
    Yesterday, no.

    Today, yes

    https://store.ricorshocks.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=42

    Buuuuttttt... Full price at the moment...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    Yesterday, no.

    Today, yes

    https://store.ricorshocks.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=42

    Buuuuttttt... Full price at the moment...
    Yer but only for the 02 to 07 model. Does the new model have the same forks?
    "The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools." - Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooneyr View Post
    Yer but only for the 02 to 07 model. Does the new model have the same forks?
    1987-2007.

    The new models suspension is soooo improved it dosn't need them.

    It's got wavy brake discs ya know

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    Broke my XR250 yesterday
    Was in a good battle and hitting 96kph down the back straight when the bike started only going to half throttle. At the start of the back straight on the 3rd or 4th lap the stopper on the end of the cable pulled out of the throttle tube.
    Coasting to a halt with the engine ticking over nicely is quite nice compared to some other ways to DNF

    I got a prize at prizegiving for the longest push

    It takes more effort to push a bike than to ride it.

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    Wonder what the hell this is the courier dropped off today?
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    They look suspicious ly like cartridges out of a sink tap but I'm picking some thing to do with racing shocks - or similar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padmei View Post
    They look suspicious ly like cartridges out of a sink tap but I'm picking some thing to do with racing shocks - or similar
    Developed by the Suzuki MotoGP team (bet you didn't know they used a DR650 as the base for the GP bike) to make the GP bike handle better over potholes, erosion ruts and pedestrians.

    They're a higher tech version of RaceTech cartridge emulators.
    If the wheel moves suddenly over a bump the brass inertia valve lags behind in the movement, uncovering some more holes and reducing the compression damping. As the valve catches up it closes off the extra holes thus smoothly increasing the compression damping.

    Effectively a harder damped than stock front end on smooth stuff and also softer than stock on bumps.

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    Before Intiminator installation...


    After Intiminator installation...


    Makes it look a lot better.

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    Intiminators

    OK. First thoughts...

    Far less brake dive and really stable through the corners with the chassis movements hard compression damping.

    Hit a square edge bump and the initial whack up through the bars isn't there but you do still feel it after that.

    I think that using my Eibach springs means that it's over-sprung now as with the stock springs the harder chassis compression damping means the suspension is held higher in the stroke and when you hit a bump and the damping goes soft for a bit the quicker rebound damping is more matched to the stockers.

    Easy enough to find out though.
    Pop the fork caps off, carefully pull out the springs, drop in the stockers, spacers, do the caps up...

    Hmmm... I think I'll contact the manufacturer and ask about the effects of heavier weight oil...

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